what the fuck is cyberpunk

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vio wrote:
gta with better graphics and more animations


I like when people are willing to look totally ignorant in an attempt to stir the pot. Good job.
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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vio wrote:
gta with better graphics and more animations


to be fair poe could be described as a diablo ripoff as well
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handeytwo wrote:
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vio wrote:
gta with better graphics and more animations


to be fair poe could be described as a diablo ripoff as well


Do people don't know that CP2077 is an RPG with character customiztion, character progression, character development, XP, builds, passive tree and actual hard choices to make when they compare it to GTA? Or do they just see cars and guns, and automatically draw the most narrow and shallow comparrison?
Sometimes, just sometimes, you should really consider adapting to the world, instead of demanding that the world adapts to you.
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Phrazz wrote:
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handeytwo wrote:
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vio wrote:
gta with better graphics and more animations


to be fair poe could be described as a diablo ripoff as well


Do people don't know that CP2077 is an RPG with character customiztion, character progression, character development, XP, builds, passive tree and actual hard choices to make when they compare it to GTA? Or do they just see cars and guns, and automatically draw the most narrow and shallow comparrison?


they watch ten seconds of gameplay at best and a trailer, because CP delayed the release of the next league its all they need to hate it
Seems like a wanna be gangster game targeting little kids with peel and stick tatoo's that wear their hats backward while gaming.

Console players dream LOL
Last edited by Chadwixx on Nov 4, 2020, 7:03:07 PM
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handeytwo wrote:
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sungod1 wrote:
Once again I give CP2077 about 20hrs live before the review beatdowns start.



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imcominghehee wrote:
Just another overated games like anthem with good graphics and advertisement



salty salty salt
you want it to fail because you accuse it for delaying the new league
it will delay your beloved league anyway
oh and it will be still buggy and unfinished, its tradition by now

sry but i hate beta league too, i dun play beta league for 7 years.
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AbilityPoints wrote:
It's scary reading some of the comments here, some people are so out of touch with gaming ...


"Gaming" isn't... "a thing."

It's an industry and a genre of product, generally felt to be part of the overall "Entertainment Media" spectrum of "stuff you can do."

It's not a.. "thing" like you seem to insinuate that it is. It's not a lifestyle, a cultural movement, a part of someone's internal life, self-actualization... nothing.

If you had written "some people are so out of touch with pizza" then we might have an interesting topic, there. :)

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Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be a cultural phenomenon.


Uh... no.

It's not important.

Seriously, it isn't.

It's "a game." It's a product. But, it doesn't even rise up to the status of "New Coke."


^-- This stuff, what you're writing and obviously enthusiastic about, is the creation of the "Game Industry." It's a mindset that if loyal, fanatic, eager, customers can be created, they will be much more enthusiastic about handing over their money.


"Cultural phenomenon"... Really?



**


"And now, for something completely different." Maybe...

The notion that "gaming" is some sort of lifestyle choice or that it's some intrinsic part of our "culture" is... mercantile nonsense.

"Games" in general are something humans do and can be incorporated into their culture. This is true, but not like the AAA Game Devs push it... They treat their entire genre like a franchised sport or, worse, a "way of life." All of it. Why? To. Sell. Products.

Cyberpunk will likely be a decent game for those who enjoy those sorts of games. And then, it too shall pass and some "New Thing" will take Cyberpunk's title and the love of its fans.

Why?

Because it's a "New Thing" to sell and Cyberpunk's hype would have died down to the point where it's time to take it out back, behind the shed, and shoot it. The developers and game industry will need something new, flashy, and appealing, to sell and will invest a lot of money in marketing hype in order to do it. They'll also do everything they can do to drag fans into their social communities and build up their dedication, involvement, and forced-love at the end of a game controller...

THEN, when the developer announces a delay after promising the world to their "adoring fans who we love and couldn't have done it without you because we "gamers" need to stick together so we can change the world because we are awesome and games are the ultimate form of everything and please, someone, msg me a hug on Twitter ™, Facebook ™, Instagram ™, Twitch ™ and be sure to Like or Subscribe on my Youtube ™ channel"... then what?

Outrage.

Betrayal.

Threats of violence.

All over a "game," not a problematic marriage or the infidelity of a lover... Just a "game."

The driveling bits of emotion and attachment that they pump into their own fanbase that imply a closeness and intimacy that does not actually exist has come back to bite them in the @$$...

The outrage displayed by emotionally undeveloped fans who have glommed onto a sense of belonging as CDPR Fans is the fault of the developer's themselves for encouraging that level of involvement and attachment.

They spurned their lovers in favor of a three-week delay and are reaping the whirlwind of their own creation.

They do this for money. They build these fanbases and encourage that degree of intimacy for... money. That's it. It serves no other purpose, but they'll tell you it serves every purpose they can think of if their fans will only remain a captive audience for their products.

CDPR has had employees receive death threats over this three-week delay. And, you know what? I blame CDPR. They got the reaction that they have been building into their game's reception from the beginning. (The "outrage" not any "action" if someone acted on it.)

They've built that hype, fueled that intimacy, insisted on that level of involvement and have largely directed all of these things at a customer base full of adolescents and minors for the sole purpose of getting them to purchase a product. And, of course, to do so enthusiastically and with great loyalty -

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74980/cyberpunk-2077-mp-monetization-will-make-you-happy-to-spend-money/index.html

They will make sure that you are "happy to spend money" with them.

If such fanbases and marketing attempts were the "communities" they tried to present themselves to be, they'd actually take a bit more responsibility to manage expectations properly instead of only making sure to keep the page-hit totals high.
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Morkonan wrote:
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AbilityPoints wrote:
It's scary reading some of the comments here, some people are so out of touch with gaming ...


"Gaming" isn't... "a thing."

It's an industry and a genre of product, generally felt to be part of the overall "Entertainment Media" spectrum of "stuff you can do."

It's not a.. "thing" like you seem to insinuate that it is. It's not a lifestyle, a cultural movement, a part of someone's internal life, self-actualization... nothing.

If you had written "some people are so out of touch with pizza" then we might have an interesting topic, there. :)

"
Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be a cultural phenomenon.


Uh... no.

It's not important.

Seriously, it isn't.

It's "a game." It's a product. But, it doesn't even rise up to the status of "New Coke."


^-- This stuff, what you're writing and obviously enthusiastic about, is the creation of the "Game Industry." It's a mindset that if loyal, fanatic, eager, customers can be created, they will be much more enthusiastic about handing over their money.


"Cultural phenomenon"... Really?



**


"And now, for something completely different." Maybe...

The notion that "gaming" is some sort of lifestyle choice or that it's some intrinsic part of our "culture" is... mercantile nonsense.

"Games" in general are something humans do and can be incorporated into their culture. This is true, but not like the AAA Game Devs push it... They treat their entire genre like a franchised sport or, worse, a "way of life." All of it. Why? To. Sell. Products.

Cyberpunk will likely be a decent game for those who enjoy those sorts of games. And then, it too shall pass and some "New Thing" will take Cyberpunk's title and the love of its fans.

Why?

Because it's a "New Thing" to sell and Cyberpunk's hype would have died down to the point where it's time to take it out back, behind the shed, and shoot it. The developers and game industry will need something new, flashy, and appealing, to sell and will invest a lot of money in marketing hype in order to do it. They'll also do everything they can do to drag fans into their social communities and build up their dedication, involvement, and forced-love at the end of a game controller...

THEN, when the developer announces a delay after promising the world to their "adoring fans who we love and couldn't have done it without you because we "gamers" need to stick together so we can change the world because we are awesome and games are the ultimate form of everything and please, someone, msg me a hug on Twitter ™, Facebook ™, Instagram ™, Twitch ™ and be sure to Like or Subscribe on my Youtube ™ channel"... then what?

Outrage.

Betrayal.

Threats of violence.

All over a "game," not a problematic marriage or the infidelity of a lover... Just a "game."

The driveling bits of emotion and attachment that they pump into their own fanbase that imply a closeness and intimacy that does not actually exist has come back to bite them in the @$$...

The outrage displayed by emotionally undeveloped fans who have glommed onto a sense of belonging as CDPR Fans is the fault of the developer's themselves for encouraging that level of involvement and attachment.

They spurned their lovers in favor of a three-week delay and are reaping the whirlwind of their own creation.

They do this for money. They build these fanbases and encourage that degree of intimacy for... money. That's it. It serves no other purpose, but they'll tell you it serves every purpose they can think of if their fans will only remain a captive audience for their products.

CDPR has had employees receive death threats over this three-week delay. And, you know what? I blame CDPR. They got the reaction that they have been building into their game's reception from the beginning. (The "outrage" not any "action" if someone acted on it.)

They've built that hype, fueled that intimacy, insisted on that level of involvement and have largely directed all of these things at a customer base full of adolescents and minors for the sole purpose of getting them to purchase a product. And, of course, to do so enthusiastically and with great loyalty -

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74980/cyberpunk-2077-mp-monetization-will-make-you-happy-to-spend-money/index.html

They will make sure that you are "happy to spend money" with them.

If such fanbases and marketing attempts were the "communities" they tried to present themselves to be, they'd actually take a bit more responsibility to manage expectations properly instead of only making sure to keep the page-hit totals high.


OK boomer.
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Morkonan wrote:
CDPR has had employees receive death threats over this three-week delay. And, you know what? I blame CDPR.


Now that's a hot take.
"
Morkonan wrote:
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AbilityPoints wrote:
It's scary reading some of the comments here, some people are so out of touch with gaming ...


"Gaming" isn't... "a thing."

It's an industry and a genre of product, generally felt to be part of the overall "Entertainment Media" spectrum of "stuff you can do."

It's not a.. "thing" like you seem to insinuate that it is. It's not a lifestyle, a cultural movement, a part of someone's internal life, self-actualization... nothing.

If you had written "some people are so out of touch with pizza" then we might have an interesting topic, there. :)

"
Cyberpunk 2077 is going to be a cultural phenomenon.


Uh... no.

It's not important.

Seriously, it isn't.

It's "a game." It's a product. But, it doesn't even rise up to the status of "New Coke."


^-- This stuff, what you're writing and obviously enthusiastic about, is the creation of the "Game Industry." It's a mindset that if loyal, fanatic, eager, customers can be created, they will be much more enthusiastic about handing over their money.


"Cultural phenomenon"... Really?



**


"And now, for something completely different." Maybe...

The notion that "gaming" is some sort of lifestyle choice or that it's some intrinsic part of our "culture" is... mercantile nonsense.

"Games" in general are something humans do and can be incorporated into their culture. This is true, but not like the AAA Game Devs push it... They treat their entire genre like a franchised sport or, worse, a "way of life." All of it. Why? To. Sell. Products.

Cyberpunk will likely be a decent game for those who enjoy those sorts of games. And then, it too shall pass and some "New Thing" will take Cyberpunk's title and the love of its fans.

Why?

Because it's a "New Thing" to sell and Cyberpunk's hype would have died down to the point where it's time to take it out back, behind the shed, and shoot it. The developers and game industry will need something new, flashy, and appealing, to sell and will invest a lot of money in marketing hype in order to do it. They'll also do everything they can do to drag fans into their social communities and build up their dedication, involvement, and forced-love at the end of a game controller...

THEN, when the developer announces a delay after promising the world to their "adoring fans who we love and couldn't have done it without you because we "gamers" need to stick together so we can change the world because we are awesome and games are the ultimate form of everything and please, someone, msg me a hug on Twitter ™, Facebook ™, Instagram ™, Twitch ™ and be sure to Like or Subscribe on my Youtube ™ channel"... then what?

Outrage.

Betrayal.

Threats of violence.

All over a "game," not a problematic marriage or the infidelity of a lover... Just a "game."

The driveling bits of emotion and attachment that they pump into their own fanbase that imply a closeness and intimacy that does not actually exist has come back to bite them in the @$$...

The outrage displayed by emotionally undeveloped fans who have glommed onto a sense of belonging as CDPR Fans is the fault of the developer's themselves for encouraging that level of involvement and attachment.

They spurned their lovers in favor of a three-week delay and are reaping the whirlwind of their own creation.

They do this for money. They build these fanbases and encourage that degree of intimacy for... money. That's it. It serves no other purpose, but they'll tell you it serves every purpose they can think of if their fans will only remain a captive audience for their products.

CDPR has had employees receive death threats over this three-week delay. And, you know what? I blame CDPR. They got the reaction that they have been building into their game's reception from the beginning. (The "outrage" not any "action" if someone acted on it.)

They've built that hype, fueled that intimacy, insisted on that level of involvement and have largely directed all of these things at a customer base full of adolescents and minors for the sole purpose of getting them to purchase a product. And, of course, to do so enthusiastically and with great loyalty -

https://www.tweaktown.com/news/74980/cyberpunk-2077-mp-monetization-will-make-you-happy-to-spend-money/index.html

They will make sure that you are "happy to spend money" with them.

If such fanbases and marketing attempts were the "communities" they tried to present themselves to be, they'd actually take a bit more responsibility to manage expectations properly instead of only making sure to keep the page-hit totals high.


To paraphrase the song of my people when they speak of a certain Chairman: 70% right, 30% wrong.

And I'll add: that 30% throws a lot of inconvenient shade on the 70.
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