From what we've seen so far, do you feel you're going to stay with PoE1 or move to PoE2?

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

Just want to chime in here with a quickie: You are technically not wrong, but the main driving factor here is lost market value, not loss in revenue. Of course, they somewhat go in tandem.

CDProjekt RED, for instance, made a ton of money with Cyberpunk 2077, yet the company nearly went down under with >75% drop in market value shortly after release. They managed to pull a 180 and not go bankrupt, but are in the green again only since this year. That doesn't happen for everybody.

CDProjekt RED Probably knew there are problems with the game.

Imagine if Cyberpunk 2077 don't even sell or make money, they would go under first. CDProjekt RED is allowed to do what they do if they make money.

Purposely releasing broken or unfinished game is intentional. They wouldn't have money to fix anything if they goes bankrupt first. If they spend years making a game, cashflow needs to come in at some point or they would certainly go bankrupt.

Releasing unfinished games is cheaper, is less time consuming and still makes companies billions of dollars so why the hell not?

CDProjekt RED didn't have a good product to sell. If the product is already bad, sell it anyway. This minimize losses.

Or "We need money now,, We'll fix it later."

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BaumisMagicalWorld wrote:

To be fair, there's a lot more to it, but it'd just further derail the thread. In short, CDPR got pressured by investors to not delay any further, even though they desperately needed it.

Absolutely not!

I've particularly enjoyed what I've seen so far from 2. Playing 1 is like rolling a dice every time I face a bunch of monsters because I can't figure out what's happening on screen due to so many enemies together with special effects and stuff happening on screen and on the ground at the same time. People don't even bother to see what archenemy mods the enemy has anymore. It's more like a mindless currency farming simulator game than an ARPG. Boss fights are still good and satisfying, that's why I still play it.

It's interesting reading through this thread and hearing how many, who I would assume to be, PoE lovers just blanket refuse PoE 2 before ever even trying it...

You might hate it, that's fine. You might love it. You have no idea until you actually sit down and play it.

Making these grand pronouncements of "I will never play PoE 2 because it 'looks' xyz" is really weird...especially when you consider that its FREE! You aren't being asked to shell out $70+ bucks just to try it. And even if you were, you can generally just return what you bought and get all your money back.

There is absolutely no downside to just trying the product and then making up your mind. But there are huge downsides to making up your mind based on incomplete videos, without even trying the game itself.

And then to spin the conversation so far and so long as to convince one's self NOT to even try the new game out of spite? It's just so strange. Who is the protest for?

Like...I can understand if you choose not to play an entirely different game from an entirely different company. But a similar game from the same company that made a game you LOVE, and you won't even give it the benefit of the doubt to try it because some videos made it look slow? What the hell is that?

^you don't have to play EA. This thread isn't exclusively about EA....it is about PoE 1 vs PoE 2. And PoE 2 is free, like PoE 1.

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harbingerofdestruction333 wrote:

There is absolutely no downside to just trying the product and then making up your mind. But there are huge downsides to making up your mind based on incomplete videos, without even trying the game itself.

Only if you don't value your time. There is always opportunity cost. Maybe people Cannot find time to play video games.

I still have a few hundred games on steam not touch yet.

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harbingerofdestruction333 wrote:

^you don't have to play EA. This thread isn't exclusively about EA....it is about PoE 1 vs PoE 2. And PoE 2 is free, like PoE 1.

No no no. Not free, "Free to play".

Remember folks. POE 2 is still in beta when it comes in November and will only have 3 Acts to try out. POE 1 is a complete game. POE 2 still has a long way before it becomes a complete game.

People do know beta games are unfinished games, right? People give them money for something that is unfinished and they get free "testers" for the game at the same time.

Like I say, why the hell not?

Day one for me.
My body is ready since 2019.

staying with POE1.

POE2's combat system looks too much like a shooter/fighting game. I want to focus on gear and build mechanics, not how well I can manually dodge an arrow