WHY PUNISH PEOPLE FOR DYING?

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Nomancs wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

As a side note, first lvl 100 character in Settlers league appeared like 23 hours after release, a scion aurabot with 0 dps. How does that fit with all the elitist arguments of "you have to earn your levels"?:) Guy invested all into defenses using leverage of not having to invest into dps, and just walked behind his party members. Even if we all agree that exp penalty is "justified", it still doesn't work fair even from this angle.

This will tell you that you CAN build a tanky character and not die :)

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Echothesis wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

As a side note, first lvl 100 character in Settlers league appeared like 23 hours after release, a scion aurabot with 0 dps. How does that fit with all the elitist arguments of "you have to earn your levels"?:) Guy invested all into defenses using leverage of not having to invest into dps, and just walked behind his party members. Even if we all agree that exp penalty is "justified", it still doesn't work fair even from this angle.

This will tell you that you CAN build a tanky character and not die :)

Sure, if I can get someone else to kill all monsters for me and occasionally die:) Poe inherent party exp bonus doesn't hurt either, regardless of who does the kill. Party vs solo choice should not be a matter of free bonuses. Fair play at its best.

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mrhouston wrote:

Oh, I made a tanky build this league. It can avoid death and its exp penalty, all right.

I stopped playing with it, because of how BORING the game becomes. It's almost no longer an action game, you just stop there and keep pushing the mouse button until the single random yellow mob dies, SOME 3 MINUTES LATER! Or have to run of annoying ones that just refuse to die because of regeneration.

It becomes a patience game, it's awful.

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Have you tried using frost bomb...

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mrhouston wrote:

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Have you tried using frost bomb...

There's more than frost bomb to negate mob regen. All for very specific builds, should we just play those and forget the rest of the game to solve the problem...? Should all tank builds use frost bomb now...?

Of course, it also doesn't solve the problem, if the mob takes 2 and a half instead of 3 minutes to kill. It's still no longer an action game, as in, action rpg.

Even if it worked; if the game works with compulsory specific items instead of optional ones, it's no longer an arpg. It's a LINEAR action game.

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Nomancs wrote:

EDIT: oh, you don't play league, so race party/solo in trade does bother you why?

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Echothesis wrote:

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Nomancs wrote:

EDIT: oh, you don't play league, so race party/solo in trade does bother you why?

No, racing doesn't bother me, it just one of many illustrations how fair play is a lie here, and those who defend exp penalty mostly appear exactly to fair play.

Another hint to GGG about modern design practices: custom difficulty level, where you can toggle mechanics on/off, and every choice in favor of more difficulty gives you some passive bonus. For example, playing with exp penalty gives %increased exp for those who are really into this kind of challenge.

It is not like entire poe game is bad, there are several archaic mechanics that spoil the experience, and the sales.

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Of course, it also doesn't solve the problem, if the mob takes 2 and a half instead of 3 minutes to kill. It's still no longer an action game, as in, action rpg.

Even if it worked; if the game works with compulsory specific items instead of optional ones, it's no longer an arpg. It's a LINEAR action game.

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mrhouston wrote:

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Of course, it also doesn't solve the problem, if the mob takes 2 and a half instead of 3 minutes to kill. It's still no longer an action game, as in, action rpg.

Even if it worked; if the game works with compulsory specific items instead of optional ones, it's no longer an arpg. It's a LINEAR action game.

If you think frost bomb solves this, I probably know more of this game than you; I'd appreciate if you stop the condescending...