Why gate the new gems behind lab?

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cursorTarget wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

You will just buy the gem instead

Especially if you play solo.

ggg balances the game around trade league not ssf as they should becuz thats what huge majority of people play

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kuciol wrote:

Thats self imposed handicap.

Is this way you guys play the game? Like this:
Need gem - buy it
Need leveling gear - buy it
Need to kill Merveil - buy it
Need to kill Kitava - buy it
Need items for the mapping - buy it
Need level 100 - buy legion domain abusers
Need to kill guardians / sirus / elder / whatever - buy it
Need to kill uber - buy it
Need challenge completeon - buy it
Want the game to be played by someone else - buy it

Sure, this is the "proper" way to play the game. Play market, don't play the game, it's obsolete.

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Gopstop22 wrote:

ggg balances the game around trade league not ssf as they should becuz thats what huge majority of people play

They does. Because ppl like kuciol wants NOT to play the actual game, they want to have legit "cheat" to boost themselves skipping gameplay by using in-game currency. GGG forced to balance the game around the trade.

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cursorTarget wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

Thats self imposed handicap.

Is this way you guys play the game? Like this:
Need gem - buy it
Need leveling gear - buy it
Need to kill Merveil - buy it
Need to kill Kitava - buy it
Need items for the mapping - buy it
Need level 100 - buy legion domain abusers
Need to kill guardians / sirus / elder / whatever - buy it
Need to kill uber - buy it
Need challenge completeon - buy it
Want the game to be played by someone else - buy it

Sure, this is the "proper" way to play the game. Play market, don't play the game, it's obsolete.

the game is about mapping and minmaxing your build. everything else is obsolete imo.

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auspexa wrote:

the game is about mapping and minmaxing your build. everything else is obsolete imo.

It's not related to the things I pointed above. He tells NOT to farm gems, just buy it! Literally: "relax bruh, you don't have to care about the gameplay and mehcanics behind that, just... buy the gem and skip gameplay. You still playing PoE in 2023? Hah! I flip-flop currency!"

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cursorTarget wrote:

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auspexa wrote:

the game is about mapping and minmaxing your build. everything else is obsolete imo.

It's not related to the things I pointed above. He tells NOT to farm gems, just buy it! Literally: "relax bruh, you don't have to care about the gameplay and mehcanics behind that, just... buy the gem and skip gameplay. You still playing PoE in 2023? Hah! I flip-flop currency!"

but to get a gem you want its not hard or that bad. every labs gets a random chance and 4 lab got guarantee to transform a gem you want

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anti4z500 wrote:

but to get a gem you want its not hard or that bad. every labs gets a random chance and 4 lab got guarantee to transform a gem you want

You suggest to interact with the lab mechanics. He suggests NOT to interract with lab mechanics, just buy the neccessary gem on the market, because "everyone"(c) hate the lab and when you play on trade league you don't need to worry about the traps and beating Izaro. Ez game.

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Bleu42 wrote:

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Aynix wrote:

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Bleu42 wrote:

Don't have to run heist for gems? Dope, heist is really unfun.

But if it's true you can just run normal lab on repeat for the gems, why not just have a vendor sell them. Or add them to the drop pool and that's it. Just feels like a time sucker.

You can say "Why dont they just add Mageblood to a vendor? I can farm one myself just repeating same map over and over. Just feels like a time sucker".

Yep. Because normal lab is even in the same cosmos as mapping. Really good point you got there bub, well thought out.

Yes, it is. Its all "time sink". You play to sink your time. You want evertyhing given on a silver plate? Play diffrent game.

Oh quit your belly aching and run some lab.

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AlvinL_ wrote:

Oh quit your belly aching and run some lab.

i hate lab with passion . but even i will run few more labs. with this new lab rewards

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cursorTarget wrote:

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kuciol wrote:

Thats self imposed handicap.

Is this way you guys play the game? Like this:
Need gem - buy it
Need leveling gear - buy it
Need to kill Merveil - buy it
Need to kill Kitava - buy it
Need items for the mapping - buy it
Need level 100 - buy legion domain abusers
Need to kill guardians / sirus / elder / whatever - buy it
Need to kill uber - buy it
Need challenge completeon - buy it
Want the game to be played by someone else - buy it

Sure, this is the "proper" way to play the game. Play market, don't play the game, it's obsolete.

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Gopstop22 wrote:

ggg balances the game around trade league not ssf as they should becuz thats what huge majority of people play

They does. Because ppl like kuciol wants NOT to play the actual game, they want to have legit "cheat" to boost themselves skipping gameplay by using in-game currency. GGG forced to balance the game around the trade.

I buy things i need to fix the things i need to get fixed. Simple as that. I treat trading as part of the game the same way farming maps is. There is too many things in this game to leave it only to chance. If i need a cluster jewel i will try to farm it but if i get the currency to buy it faster i will just do that. There is no reason to limit your options. Its just a game afterall. I dont intend to hitting lvl100 or farm ubers, i dont need that. I dont see this as an achievment. Getting epeen points for doing it in SSF also dont interest me. I play the game for fun, kill some bosses, get some challanges, make some builds. Sometimes it even takes me 15 minutes to complete a map you know. Because thats how i like it. I will use whatever options the game gives me in order to do what i want to do. Self imposed limitations are for people that think it matters. It doesnt, its just a game. If you dont want to interract with certain mechanic use other options the game gives you to get what you want. Its that simple. Trading is an option, the choice is yours. Why you got so buthurt about this simple fact is beyond me.