General Discussion - Why gate the new gems behind lab? - Forum

" shadow_rps wrote: " Aynix wrote: " shadow_rps wrote: It's simple math. How many maps you need to confidently get ashes amul? 2800 in average, with 2% drop rate. On trade league? Depends what maps you run. You can farm enough for Ashes in prolly like 50 maps. 10k chaos in 50 maps? Without crazy zoomer builds and extreme juicing? People easily pull 1 div per map. Last time I checked Ashes wasnt more than 50 divs.	Posted by Aynix on Dec 1, 2023, 5:27:55 PM On Probation Quote this Post
" Pashid wrote: To make lab more interesting and rewarding again outside of Lab services. Honestly a good change and swap instead of having gems locked behind just Heist (also a mechanic that's not really liked by a lot of players) Not to mention it's a good ssf friendly change since a long while as well. But they didn't make it more interesting. They made the rewards more interesting, which isn't the same thing. If anything, it'll cause people to dislike it even more as now they HAVE to do content they dont like for rewards they do like. That's not fun gaming. Great if you do like doing labs, but otherwise just frustration.	Posted by Asmosis on Dec 1, 2023, 5:51:23 PM Quote this Post
No, They only have to if they choose to - by playing SSF. Other, normal, people will just buy them and run lab 4 times a league.	Posted by Aynix on Dec 1, 2023, 6:51:35 PM On Probation Quote this Post
" Aynix wrote: People easily pull 1 div per map. Last time I checked Ashes wasnt more than 50 divs. You math is wrong. People easily pull eight mirrors from a single sanctum.	Posted by shadow_rps on Dec 1, 2023, 7:13:35 PM Quote this Post
" shadow_rps wrote: " Aynix wrote: People easily pull 1 div per map. Last time I checked Ashes wasnt more than 50 divs. You math is wrong. People easily pull eight mirrors from a single sanctum. Wouldnt call it "easily" considering it happened once in entire league.	Posted by Aynix on Dec 1, 2023, 7:38:04 PM On Probation Quote this Post
To make the reward worth the challenge... Lab runners saw Divine-signs in their eyes...SuitSizeSmall "just" might see a bump in ad revenue, which is long overdue to the commitment that team has done. -Time to be funny. The world needs funny right now! Warning: "Might" get you muted. 25 Exalts...oh God my stupidity stuck! Now onto 25 Divines...	Posted by MourningBlade on Dec 1, 2023, 7:38:41 PM Quote this Post
" Asmosis wrote: But they didn't make it more interesting. They made the rewards more interesting, which isn't the same thing. If anything, it'll cause people to dislike it even more as now they HAVE to do content they dont like for rewards they do like. That's not fun gaming. Great if you do like doing labs, but otherwise just frustration. Every piece of content has its exclusive rewards. Gems are replacement for helm enchants. Nothing changed in that regard. You will just buy the gem instead. It will be even cheaper too because thats all you will need. No alt qualities and no threshhold jewels. You make it much bigger deal than it really is. Last edited by kuciol on Dec 1, 2023, 11:33:19 PM	Posted by kuciol on Dec 1, 2023, 11:32:24 PM Quote this Post
" kuciol wrote: You will just buy the gem instead Especially if you play solo.	Posted by cursorTarget on Dec 1, 2023, 11:52:21 PM Quote this Post
" Aynix wrote: " Bleu42 wrote: Don't have to run heist for gems? Dope, heist is really unfun. But if it's true you can just run normal lab on repeat for the gems, why not just have a vendor sell them. Or add them to the drop pool and that's it. Just feels like a time sucker. You can say "Why dont they just add Mageblood to a vendor? I can farm one myself just repeating same map over and over. Just feels like a time sucker". Yep. Because normal lab is even in the same cosmos as mapping. Really good point you got there bub, well thought out.	Posted by Bleu42 on Dec 2, 2023, 12:01:33 AM Quote this Post
" cursorTarget wrote: Especially if you play solo. Thats self imposed handicap. Also if you play SSF you would have to farm enchant, alt quality gem and maybe threshold jewel. If anything it made things easier.	Posted by kuciol on Dec 2, 2023, 12:22:42 AM Quote this Post