Bex Confirms ExileCon is the Jumping-Off Point for Path of Exile 2's Marketing

I thought 4.0 was official lmao I didn't even realise people had made it up, makes sense to me definitely shouldn't get stick for using it.

They can call it PoE2 but if PoE1 works on it then its 4.0 for PoE1.

Can we try to define ARPG next, and draw the line between RPG, ARGP, JRPG and so on?

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Pangaearocks wrote:

Can we try to define ARPG next, and draw the line between RPG, ARGP, JRPG and so on?

JRPG are games where I always save the best consumable items(megalixir) incase I need them, and when the game ends I never used one.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

I thought 4.0 was official lmao I didn't even realise people had made it up, makes sense to me definitely shouldn't get stick for using it.

They can call it PoE2 but if PoE1 works on it then its 4.0 for PoE1.

Well it's not "made up", it will actually be patch 4.0 that comes with the PoE2 campaign and all the extras.

Obviously GGG doesn't want to market it that way, and that's when C picked up on highlighting the non sequel-esque expansion that 4.0 is.

And then I proceed to get shit for it lol, when it makes perfect sense to me, follows GGG's previous patching pattern, and it is an expansion to the PoE1 infrastructure.

And for those that say 4.0 is a degeneration, or weaponized information that is twisted, are missing the point that it's actually true and real.

Again I suppose it doesn't really matter if the players react favorably though. So I guess we will just see.

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sumfight wrote:

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Pangaearocks wrote:

Can we try to define ARPG next, and draw the line between RPG, ARGP, JRPG and so on?

JRPG are games where I always save the best consumable items(megalixir) incase I need them, and when the game ends I never used one.

LOL its a great description, gonna use this one in the future

I suppose the issue, Darth, is that consistently denigrating and dismissing the Path of Exile 2 redux as "just 4.0, a minor expansion not really worth talking about" feels disingenuous and misleading. Even what little we know of it so far is going to blow up the game. From what we know so far, Path of Exile 2 is absolutely the sort of rework you'd see in a video game sequel. Grinding Gear is simply going an extra dozen miles in retroactively back-hacking their sequel in to the original game in order to preserve your purchases and progress, rather than forcing you to build an MTX collection and a Standard backlog of testing gear all over again. They're being nicer than most companies are when developing a sequel and letting you keep your shit, despite that being significantly harder than starting from a clean slate.

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1453R wrote:

I suppose the issue, Darth, is that consistently denigrating and dismissing the Path of Exile 2 redux as "just 4.0, a minor expansion not really worth talking about" feels disingenuous and misleading. Even what little we know of it so far is going to blow up the game. From what we know so far, Path of Exile 2 is absolutely the sort of rework you'd see in a video game sequel. Grinding Gear is simply going an extra dozen miles in retroactively back-hacking their sequel in to the original game in order to preserve your purchases and progress, rather than forcing you to build an MTX collection and a Standard backlog of testing gear all over again. They're being nicer than most companies are when developing a sequel and letting you keep your shit, despite that being significantly harder than starting from a clean slate.

Actually we dont know much, and that's on GGG, not the players. I'd say there is an equal chance, or potential, for players to come out of 4.0 asking "5 years of development and this is all we got?"

Not to mention all the pitfalls Draegnarr mentioned about dragging PoE1 along for the ride. It's possible that not having a true standalone sequel with an actual "new engine" ends up hurting what they can do moving forward. I suppose it's possible they could adjust, or remaster, or eventually legacy PoE1, but I think it's problematic as it stands (console too btw)

I've never said it's a minor expansion, or not worth talking about. It's major, but it's accurate to call it what it is. In fact Id love to talk more about it, but information on PoE2 is being held like the Manhattan Project. Would an FAQ sticky, or a quarterly update really be so difficult? It's just odd man.

If you don't think people, who are not as plugged in, will be surprised PoE2 isn't actually PoE2, you are kidding yourself. If anyone is being disengenous, imo it's GGG marketing on PoE2.

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Draegnarrr wrote:

I thought 4.0 was official lmao I didn't even realise people had made it up, makes sense to me definitely shouldn't get stick for using it.

They can call it PoE2 but if PoE1 works on it then its 4.0 for PoE1.

It's not made up. POE 2 IS the 4.0 update, that's how GGG called it for years before exilecon 2019, and it's more accurate than POE 2, considering it's not a sequel.

people using the 4.0 is almost always to downplay how big an "update" this is. disrespectful to the devs. nobody following closely cares about the label if it s 4.0 or 2. It s probably cause for anyone outside the game, 4.0 looks like an average update that you probably wont check out when poe 2 means, hey maybe i take a look at this and so they decided to make a name to reflect the tons of improvements.

Why even bring this name stuff other than trying to denigrate the update. "JUST a 4.0 lol".

at least wait for poe 2 to come out before trying to smear it in some way.

and btw poe 2 means a lot more people are going to work on leagues so better leagues and balances.

Much better engine + new campaign + future great leagues is way enough to call it poe 2 to tell people, yep it s big.

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SerialF wrote:

nobody following closely cares about the label if it s 4.0 or 2. It s probably cause for anyone outside the game, 4.0 looks like an average update that you probably wont check out when poe 2 means, hey maybe i take a look at this and so they decided to make a name to reflect the tons of improvements.

This is correct. That's why it matters. A lot. But not to anyone already here as forum users.

Chris even mentioned on a podcast that there are still people that think they game has desynch and /oos and all kinds of other relics from the past and nothing short of a sequel will bring them back. It is all about that signaling.

Personally I have friends who have quit years ago (around last Exilecon) and said that they'd come back for PoE2. Literally no matter how good or different the game gets between then and now, they feel like they've seen everything there is to see from PoE1. Fair enough on that front I guess.