T17 maps and modifiers are THE WORST thing that happened to POE

T17s are bad for the game.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

How do I enjoy T17's with sub-20 mirrors?

You farm T17 maps using meta builds like I did (ED Contagion is hidden meta, don't tell anyone though) and just drop them. It really is that simple!



????
Repeat.
Profit.

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

How do I enjoy T17's with sub-20 mirrors?

You farm T17 maps using meta builds like I did (ED Contagion is hidden meta, don't tell anyone though) and just drop them. It really is that simple!



????
Repeat.
Profit.

Dude, that is genius. I bet like, definitely only 5% of the player base knows this secret. You should make some content to share your strat.

This is such a nice way to spend an afternoon at work. Thanks for easing my suffering gents.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

This thread has proved exactly that though. Its just a fact that only min-maxing 0.1% mageblood/nimis players farm t17s, while the actual majority: the average player just does not enjoy these maps.l

Incorrect. Players across all modes routinely tackle T17 maps long before acquiring a Mageblood or achieving a fully min-maxed setup. These maps are consistently being cleared well before the market even begins to fill with Magebloods or heavily optimized crafted gear. A glance at PoE Ninja, which provides a fairly representative snapshot of the active playerbase already shows that far more than a mere 0.1% of players engage in meaningful character optimization or creative build crafting across all modes.

In fact, more than 80% of players who actually engage with a fresh league and don’t quit within the first day or two participate in optimal character building, explore the game’s full range of content, and do so across various modes and builds. So I’m not sure where you’re getting this “0.1%” number from, it doesn’t reflect reality in the slightest. It’s just a convenient figure to mask the fact that you, personally, might be unable to run T17 maps or dislike that others can. In that case, perhaps consider simply not running them. They’re called aspirational content for a reason, not because they should be removed or watered down to suit a handful of players unwilling or unable to engage with them. Most players handle and outpace this content perfectly fine.

It would be far more accurate to say that the few recurring complaints about the content, often voiced by the same individuals, make up the supposed “0.1%,” and even that’s being generous. The reality is that the minority still struggling with T17, or even T16 simply highlights the vast diversity within the playerbase. Many enjoy min-maxing multiple builds, others prefer refining a single well-tuned character each league. Some immerse themselves in crafting, others like to be rich, some only play briefly before burning out, and yes some are still trying to conquer T16 maps or even white maps. A few are even getting filtered by what’s arguably the easiest boss in existence, the pirate encounter in Settlers.

But if anything, four or five players continually complaining about T17 maps is far from proof that T17s are poorly designed or somehow “high-end meta restricted.” It’s difficult to make bold claims when they can be so easily debunked and disproven by the broader player experience. If anything, what these same individuals truly highlight is that within the massive variety of players, there are still some who simply haven’t conquered T17 content yet, and are still getting farmed by pixel, even though these maps have been out for quite some time now.

T17s are bad,unfun and should be deleted. This is an objective fact.


And thanks to everyone for giving this thread so much traffic and attention, just means GGG will see it earlier and be able to make the decision to fix this huge issue with the game.

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

Incorrect. Players across all modes routinely tackle T17 maps long before acquiring a Mageblood or achieving a fully min-maxed setup.

If anything, what these same individuals truly highlight is that within the massive variety of players, there are still some who simply haven’t conquered T17 content yet, and are still getting farmed by pixel, even though these maps have been out for quite some time now.

This. Thank you.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

T17s are bad,unfun and should be deleted. This is an objective fact.


And thanks to everyone for giving this thread so much traffic and attention, just means GGG will see it earlier and be able to make the decision to fix this huge issue with the game.

Get this man some kratom, we need to ween him off the copium ASAP.

So much evidence and proof just in this 1 thread that t17s were one of the biggest mistakes in this game lmao, the amount of elitism and toxicity is insane. This is the feedback section, not the build help or item showcase section of the forum.

It's a shame posts can't be moderated for "deliberate obnoxiousness" or telegraphed rage-baiting.

That would likely stop a heck of a lot of REAL forum rulebreaking from even happening in the first place.