T17 maps and modifiers are THE WORST thing that happened to POE

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cowmoo275#3095 wrote:

It's a shame posts can't be moderated for "deliberate obnoxiousness" or telegraphed rage-baiting.

That would likely stop a heck of a lot of REAL forum rulebreaking from even happening in the first place.

This could be directed at either side of this argument, but I don't disagree.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

T17s are bad,unfun and should be deleted. This is an objective fact.

Wait until you learn about Valdo maps.

WARNING: FOMO INSIDE - PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And thanks to everyone for giving this thread so much traffic and attention, just means GGG will see it earlier and be able to make the decision to fix this huge issue with the game.

You mean like these threads from 2024?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3568421
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3583526

It looks like GGG already made an decision and T17's are here to stay and to be expanded upon.

Surely, if it really was such an issue, GGG would have acted by now. Oh wait.. one of them is from you. I'm starting to see a pattern here. Nevermind.

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

Wait until you learn about Valdo maps.

Those have nothing to do with t17s? They're just some weird random optional gamba content. Most of their rewards are a total meme, only if you get lucky one drops with a good reward. If you even have the 50 mirror build to run it that is, if you don't you just sell it on trade. The best valdo map I've ever gotten was a forbidden flame one that sold for 6 div lmao, better off selling all the puzzle boxes.


Valdo maps are optional and barely affect anything in the game. T17s affect the economy, and are just unfair,unfun and uncreative. Total anti-fun design, annoying af enemies designed to be annoying, and map modifiers that should not exist. T17s just suck, doesn't matter that 2 builds can run them, that doesn't change how much they suck and how bad they are for the game. This whole thread and many others prove just how horrible of an addition this content has been loool

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Celestriad#0304 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

T17s are bad,unfun and should be deleted. This is an objective fact.

Wait until you learn about Valdo maps.

WARNING: FOMO INSIDE - PROCEED AT YOUR OWN RISK

Spoiler

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

And thanks to everyone for giving this thread so much traffic and attention, just means GGG will see it earlier and be able to make the decision to fix this huge issue with the game.

You mean like these threads from 2024?
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3568421
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3583526

Surely, if it really was such an issue, GGG would have acted by now. Oh wait.. one of them is from you. I'm starting to see a pattern here. Nevermind.

All mirror, no lock? Gotta diversify those investments my man.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

So much evidence and proof just in this 1 thread that t17s were one of the biggest mistakes in this game lmao, the amount of elitism and toxicity is insane. This is the feedback section, not the build help or item showcase section of the forum.

I would think you would grind out a good build if you had the ability to, just so when a dev finally looks at all your complaints, they dont immediately laugh.

I thought I remembered a post you did awhile back!

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3579333

Enjoy reading things like this in there:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Valdo maps are optional and barely affect anything in the game. T17s affect the economy, and are just unfair,unfun and uncreative.

Ah, yes. Me buying a MB Valdo's that someone can't run for cheaper than the actual MB doesn't affect the economy? That checks out.

T17s suck, and that's always gonna be a fact. Just a matter of time until they nerf the rewards, or nerf the map mods. Or do some huge rework to them so that people can't farm X divines per hour from them.

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

T17s suck, and that's always gonna be a fact. Just a matter of time until they nerf the rewards, or nerf the map mods. Or do some huge rework to them so that people can't farm X divines per hour from them.

To be clear, I would bet that the majority of farming is now occurring in T16.5, not T17.

And since this is new content, I think you are in for quite the long wait before it gets removed/nerfed xD

Love that t17s arent going anywhere.

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Mashgesture#2912 wrote:

Enjoy reading things like this

You should give this one a read: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3583720/page/1

It has certified bangers in it, like this one:

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It's quite literally unfair that the 0.000001% that can farm mirrors in t17s get to have loot explosions while the rest of the playerbase is stuck doing less rewarding things. This is why t17s suck lol

The majority of the playerbase hates t17s. It's really that simple. These maps are not a "bridge to ubers", they are harder than uber bosses and have overtuned enemies and overtuned rewards that only a select few builds can even get. That's just bad.

I'm also a huge fan of this one:

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I don't need sources, its obvious how bad these maps are. It's a fact.

On one of those rainy days I'll take my time and give it a proper writeup. As we all know, GGG values actual feedback from those who play the game and engage with its systems. Mercenaries going core is a good example of that.

I'm also thinking about making a thread about bringing Crucible back.. hmm.