Reworked and Changed Ascendancy Classes in Path of Exile: Echoes of the Atlas

Hhmmm, well. ok.
Takes some time getting used to, I think.
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It's seems Jugg continues to be the whipping post for some reason. I would love to know why they keep nerfing it. It needs more damage. Obviously I don't think Jugg should be on par damage wise with say a zerker or slayer, but damn 10 minutes on what should be a 2 minute fight?? at least give them enough damage to cut that in half so we can actually play the game.


jugg is dominant in the HC versions of league, thus the nerfs. same for the champion. Slayer slightly buffed + swap is huge. Hiero - buffed single target damage and tankiness (well, that 4 end charges are huge). Zerker got like 10 max rage - not much of a buff , but a buff nonetheless. PF - dunno, never played one. Also - elementalist extremely good (i will even be starting with it, instead of hiero). Inquisitor - dunno, we need to see how he will look like (battlemage on martyr of innocence and disintegrator staves makes it inferior to the elementalist imo). Raider overbuffed , it already had maybe too much movement speed and they buffed it lol.
Last edited by AbyssOfManus#3042 on Jan 12, 2021, 3:22:29 PM
Ricochet is actually a nerf to Deadeye

30% chance to chain off a wall

Okay so chain rules state that a projectile cannot hit a target it has already chained to

So by my understanding this means

In order for a projectile to chain back to the main target it must go

Primary > Secondary > Tertiary > Primary

So if the projectile hits a wall, there is a 30% chance it will chain off the wall to another target

Which im assuming means it consumes one of the chains remaining

So any arrow/projectile that DID hit the boss cannot chain back to the boss without a 3rd target

So only 30% of the arrows that did NOT hit the boss can chain back to hit the boss

AND there has to be terrain for it to chain from

The OLD Ricochet was - 10% more for each remaining chain

Which meant if you stacked chain then your first hit would have a huge amount of % MORE damage

So I dont see how this new Ricochet is even remotely decent considering that ALL end game arenas have no terrain

Shaper / Elder / Uber Elder / Maven / Cortex / ETC

So Ricochet is now a trash tier notable on the deadeye tree

What a waste

The only thing it might be good at is helping on Delirious maps (MAYBE)
and Deep Delve

Outside of that it wont be doing much at all compared to a consistent %more upfront damage

Last edited by Bloomania#2606 on Jan 12, 2021, 3:30:41 PM
Is Scion no longer a part of the game? A pitty. Somehow I liked her.
Overwhelmed by Path of Exile? You might want to have a look at Wrecker_of_Days' beginner-friendly guides. One-click-wonders that do not require any specific items to conquer the campaign and the Atlas: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2606288/page/1
To me the focus on these nerfs were centered around server performance increases. If you look at what was severely impacted; speed of mapping, minions, and DoT builds which all negatively impact server performance.

With that being said they have gutted almost every league start build that I have played....back to the drawling board.

Sad days to zoom zoom currency starts.
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LIghtShading wrote:
Thanks, GGG, for buffing my raider

raider is back BOYS


lol its just base lose to increase damage and some attack speed.
Nothing buffed there
Nice job Tencent GGG.
Iam happy for that good work.
Now i'm ready for next 200h in Cyberpunk.

Again, thanks so much <3
Great job GGG. you managed to slaughter any build there was. you kept nerfing juggs which never stood out AoE / speed / clear wise, and now u simply butcher most builds taking away defensive layers n damage one by one. back to World of Tanks n Destiny2. this trash is unplayable.

p.s. add more harvest broken op crafting to the game so ppl just farm farm and craft their 6x Tier 1 items. you are killing your own game. Deal with it.
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Exile009 wrote:
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Lvzb3l wrote:
GGG: Yeah guys we gonna balance the game bla bla bla...

Headhunter 7 YEARS LATER: DANCE WITH ME BABEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!


HH has been deliberately left untouched, as it's meant to serve as a twink chase item. There is no way to balance the effect it has - since it just borrows from the pool of rare monster mods which grant rare mobs the power to threaten us - that wouldn't mean nerfing it into irrelevance. See Replica Headhunter for a much weaker version - there's a reason that thing is much cheaper.

Headhunter is essentially separate from discussions around game balance - everyone agrees that it isn't balanced, but it also isn't meant to be.


The question here is WHY there's a need to maintain an item like HH untouched, and YES It can easily nerfed by tweaking the buff pool, as simple as that.

"everyone agrees that it isn't balanced, but it also isn't meant to be" Then WHY the need to balance everything else? MAybe they should balance all those USELESS skill gems who no one plays and they're like garbage content?
Guys, remember that this is a Harvest league, Harvest crafts will destroy these drawbacks. Remember that Maeven's orb is coming, and some mods will get even more OP. Also, most builds lost what, 1M dps from their 10M total? Will this actually break your gameplay?

The changes to Assassin are kinda bad because he lost MS, this I will agree with.

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