(3.2) [Lighty] 2H RT Cyclone: Dope for Beast League & Lab™
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" You can't count with the bloodlust multiplier because you can't do bleed. Also, your AW will not be active 100% of the time on bosses. Also bosses have many resistances, and apply bleed on them is hard. Also you'll not be at max life 100% of the time, you'll not take the most of it (if any, at all). Your DPS is this high only in theory, with perfect conditions. Last edited by Shiiro95 on Aug 11, 2017, 11:48:53 AM
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" There is not "one correct way". Blood Magic is the worst however it should cost you the most DPS of all options. If your dmg is high enough Mana Leech on one item should be enough to sustain your cyclone. You should not cyclone when there are no mobs anyway and in my opinion engage mobs always with Leap Slam+Fortify and possible Endurance Charges on Stun. Warlords curse with Blasphemy does the job as well and gives you Endurance charges and dropping Vulnerability should be less dps loss than using Blood Magic. For example if you run Grace+Blasphemy+Warlords Mark or Vulnerability + Englighten you should still have a 100 mana pool or something which is enough to leap slam between packs and use blood rage and start cycloning and when you hit mobs you are always at max mana. |
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" THANKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also those fucking high dps are only in perfect contidions, for fractions of seconds, IF you can manage to beat all the stuff you are "simulating" on PoB. | |
" Um yes I can do Bleed, Vengeance applies bleed and Ancient Warchief Totem applies bleed. And I am actually at max life pretty much all the time unless life leech is disabled (totems). I am actually playing the build in harbinger league and doing Tier 15 maps with a Kaom's Primacy, 5k hp and -35% chaos resistance.. Bosses are tricky only because my defensive stats suck and I have not played for 2 years so a lot of them are simply new for me and I need to find out what do play around. Everything else, normal mobs in t15 pretty much dies in a second while cycloning through it. Last edited by Quizzlemanizzle on Aug 11, 2017, 11:52:31 AM
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" And no. With BM, with the correct setup, you can do more damage than elemental, because of monster resistences and map mods. Also because you free up a slot on your main setup, multiplying the damage effectively. | |
" Oh, sorry, I didn't count with it. But yeah, still bosses are hard to apply bleed. | |
" If you are playing physical builds you have to drop one of brutality, phys dmg, dmg on full life, ruthless, maim or bloodlust or even faster attacks/conc effect/area of effect for blood magic. Those are huge losses. In my setup with the ultimate gear the worst gem I could drop for Blood Magic would be Ruthless and that drops 450k dps (25% of total).. While at the same time using Vulnerability instead of Warlords Mark is worth only 180k dps. Last edited by Quizzlemanizzle on Aug 11, 2017, 11:57:15 AM
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Last edited by McGuscha on Aug 11, 2017, 1:13:07 PM
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" AS far as I know there is no boss or monster in the game that is immune to bleed and I can't find anything to back up your claim that applying bleed to a boss is specifically hard such that a warchief totem with 6 attacks per second and 25% chance to bleed couldnt apply bleed. Also my gameplay experience tells me that this is not true because for example I kill Kaom in T15 Abyss in like 10 seconds (with Kaom's Primacy, lvl19 gems without quality and only 50k dps in cyclone tooltip) unless I have to dodge a lot and don't do dmg. If anything I would remove the Bloodlust gem before bosses and swap it in before the boss because even at T15 I still kill the mobs so fast that it is generally a waste of time to put up the Warchief Totem at all unless the whole screen is full of mobs. Also I am uncertain how effective Vengeance is at proccing Bleed, I'd imagine it would only be effective with Atziri Axe since it has Bleed% on the axe already in addition to a few nodes you pick up along the way. Last edited by Quizzlemanizzle on Aug 11, 2017, 12:12:40 PM
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" Useful pastebin, thanks. After analyzing it I get the following ideas: I cannot replicate your tree as I'm playing Juggernaut. Nodes on your tree match mine most of the time though (except for the right side of the tree, which I cannot access). If I get Razor's Edge passive, Voidheart can be swapped, right? I see you're using Bloodlust on Cyclone and Bleed on Ancestral Warchief. If I don't have a 6-Link chest can I skip using Bloodlust and in turn skip using Bleed on Ancestral Warchief? Your Ancestral Warchief has Maim-Faster Attacks-Bleed. I'm thinking about a 5-Link with Maim-Faster Attacks-Concentrated Effect-Melee Physical. The reason for 5-Linking Ancestral Warchief is that I don't have Enlighten for a 5-Link aura setup right now. I would still 4-Link Blasphemy-Vulnerability/Warlord's Mark-Grace-Blood Rage paying 85% Mana then. Why use Vengeance on Leap Slam instead of Faster Attacks and why not use Faster Attacks on Cyclone? I'm not surprised to hear that using Blood Magic makes me lose DPS but in turn I thought it was a better using it still since the OP stated that "Running 100% of your mana into auras the best thing to do overall and will require you to run your utility skills off bloodmagic." |
