Tired of patches that are destroying the fun of the game

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

What on earth are you talking about, man. That comment referred to Grim Dawn. 🤦‍♂️

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/c/grimdawn/5
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/off-topic

This might be better in the other games forums or off topic, since this topic is about 'Tired of patches that are destroying the fun of the game' (PoE related), and not 'patches that destroyed Grim Dawn.' Totally the wrong forum, sir.

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VoidWhisperer42#5989 wrote:

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

What on earth are you talking about, man. That comment referred to Grim Dawn. 🤦‍♂️

https://forums.crateentertainment.com/c/grimdawn/5
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/off-topic

This might be better in the other games forums or off topic, since this topic is about 'Tired of patches that are destroying the fun of the game' (PoE related), and not 'patches that destroyed Grim Dawn.' Totally the wrong forum, sir.

The OP brought up Grim Dawn in the first post in this thread, to which Baumi was responding.

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xjjanie#4242 wrote:

The OP brought up Grim Dawn in the first post in this thread, to which Baumi was responding.

OP’s main post is still centered on how they feel about the current state of PoE, and the result of that is simply that they choose to play something else. They never attempted to derail it into a discussion about the other off topic games. That shift is entirely what the other user tried to derail it into. And the contrast between the two could not be more apparent. One is offering their perspective on PoE in the PoE discussion section, while the other is deliberately steering the conversation toward unrelated commentary about another game, which feels rather misplaced to say the least.

The fun part this time with .4 is they admitted we arn't playing the latest iteration of the atlas, we are testing something that has already changed internally. With this admission i think this is the reason the game feels so shit, it's already been changed/fixed in many instances.

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maxes789#7131 wrote:

I dont understand how anybody can deemed this game fun if devs are constantly pushing out patches that are several pages long and will most likely destroy your builds that you play for hundreds of hours. I will go back to playing grim dawn, torchlight 2, titan quest and other ARPGS where I know that my builds will be good even 10+ years down the line.

lol

Im playing this game for 12+ years because its always evolving, changing

If the vision of the game was like your vision - i'd quit 12 years ago

I don't want easy game, i dont want Path Of Easy

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shadowthedead#5607 wrote:

Im playing this game for 12+ years because its always evolving, changing

If the vision of the game was like your vision - i'd quit 12 years ago

I don't want easy game, i dont want Path Of Easy

I never stated I want an Easy game. I stated that I want those builds to be relative for longer and not getting rid of the items and sometimes the whole characters because those builds no longer works. You love wasting your hours and currency on over and over again you do you but this is my point of view of a person that doesnt have 18+ hours a day to sit and play video games.

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NukeFonKillazz#4119 wrote:

so you want for devs to never change meta

That's the worst thing you can do. Instead of destroying builds that people enjoy they should buff underperforming builds. More viable builds would be... better? No?

It's so common sense to me that I can't even fathom the argument that instead of creating more viable builds, they should nerf viable builds to change the meta. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Want a good example? Check out Project Diablo 2. Instead of nerfing working builds, they actually continually work on improving non-viable builds. What a concept! It's actually fantastic having more builds to check out and possibly enjoy playing.

But hey, just keep nerfing until the morale improves. Right? Right?

/boggle

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Rippster#4037 wrote:

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NukeFonKillazz#4119 wrote:

so you want for devs to never change meta

That's the worst thing you can do. Instead of destroying builds that people enjoy they should buff underperforming builds. More viable builds would be... better? No?

It's so common sense to me that I can't even fathom the argument that instead of creating more viable builds, they should nerf viable builds to change the meta. It's absolutely ridiculous.

Want a good example? Check out Project Diablo 2. Instead of nerfing working builds, they actually continually work on improving non-viable builds. What a concept! It's actually fantastic having more builds to check out and possibly enjoy playing.

But hey, just keep nerfing until the morale improves. Right? Right?

/boggle

This is exactly what I was wanting to point out the whole time but you cant explain this to these fanatics that have 18+ hours a day to do nothing else than sit and play video games because they are still kids. Only adults with jobs and responsibilities will understand this.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Rippster#4037 wrote:

Want a good example? Check out Project Diablo 2. Instead of nerfing working builds, they actually continually work on improving non-viable builds. What a concept! It's actually fantastic having more builds to check out and possibly enjoy playing.

The concept of only buffing is only a solution short term, it's incredibly detrimental to long term content. That is literally how you get scope and power creep. Nerfing is essential; it's blanket nerfs with no regard to collateral that are the culprits.

A great example would be the absolutely nonsensical nerf to The Feared, changing the entire invitation into a quest chain hunting monstrosity with no actual afterthought, as indicated by the fact how they had to scramble to find a "fix" for the missing Chayula after their fantastic "rework".

I don't blame the devs for making an "oopsie", but it also does show that the passion resides elsewhere. There's a lot of these "oopsies" happening for a while now.

Why is everybody going into extreme scenarios? Nobody said that from now on only buffs for everything. Can you imagine that they will put ALL the skill gems on the same power level? There would be no meta this and non-meta that. Can you imagine that you would not have to read patch notes if they nerfed to the ground melee builds again or if they nerfed minion builds to the point that it would require from player to spend insane amount of divines on crafting or straight mirror trading in order for Animate Guardian to be used again in high level juiced maps? Can you imagine having a freedom to ACTUALLY choose the build and skill gem without worring if you have enough time to afford 100+ mirror worth of items to get that build up and running? No you cannot imagine that and thats why you and others post comments like that because you and others play only this game and dont know what a good balance in game looks like.