How is this a looter ARPG when you NEVER LOOT ANYTHING!?!?!?!?

Yeah idk how this is a looter. It's def an ARPG but not a looter. There is barely anything in game worth looting. Since we can't craft anything that drops or fix it. it's all JUNK JUNK JUNK

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ClaudianReyn#1693 wrote:

The Market and a good crafting+dropping system cannot coexist.

If we would be able to create our own gear without buying from the market, no one would need to buy items and there would be an inflation of items.

The probability that a million of people will drop the item you need is higher than any chance you might have to create or drop the respective item.

So an RNG system with a Market is the worst concept ever. I don't know the solution on this.

In 330h I've had just one good weapon drop from Rituals, that's it.

I also sold a 4divines ring and I've had a couple of divines drops, that's it. I didn't have full rarity gear, just 24%.

It completely can, it's basically balance issue, look for Last Epoch as an example.

The game is balanced around having players pretty damn good gear to progress endgame, but most cannot obtain cause in needs obscene amount of gringing or luck.

Trade is a shortcut to hundreds of hours farming upon each upgrade.

As of now, without trade PoE is balanced as 1 time play game to make you grind for ages and still have room to improve. But since leagues exits it's what it is. Very few have experince and time to farm 40 challenges every 3 months or whatever your goal is.

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ClaudianReyn#1693 wrote:

The Market and a good crafting+dropping system cannot coexist.

If we would be able to create our own gear without buying from the market, no one would need to buy items and there would be an inflation of items.

The probability that a million of people will drop the item you need is higher than any chance you might have to create or drop the respective item.

So an RNG system with a Market is the worst concept ever. I don't know the solution on this.

In 330h I've had just one good weapon drop from Rituals, that's it.

I also sold a 4divines ring and I've had a couple of divines drops, that's it. I didn't have full rarity gear, just 24%.

+1
Good points there.

Crafting with a Market is feasible if the results from Crafting are always worth the investment in currency.
e.g. If I have a good weapon that my character is not using, I could mod it and then have something that is easily worth at least the value of the orbs used to create it.
I sell that, get the orbs and then perhaps buy the thing I really wanted or I find a good base and mod my weapon.
The problem with POE2 and the crafting and trade is that the self-crafted mods are always worse than that found on dropped gear.
If the crafting could be somehow aimed or biased at an earlier time, like maybe the mods follow the runes embedded in the item, then that would make crafting a little more deterministic and of greater value than using the orbs for trade.

GGG is going to have to address this. an ARPG with no SSF mode is insane.

But if they dont want to change this, they need to tell us explicitly ASAP so I can delete this game from my PS5 and find another game.

+1 The game doesn't give you any gear and forces you to purchase items on an associated website. Is this considered good gameplay?

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Yep +1

This game is just slow,tedious,painful and boring. It's anything but fun.

If you think it's bad now... just remember you're going to have to slog through the 40+ hour campaign ever... single... league for every... single... character.

It's probably going to be a "no" for me.

The ascendancies were the final deal breakers as far as I'm concerned.

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Yep +1

This game is just slow,tedious,painful and boring. It's anything but fun.

If you think it's bad now... just remember you're going to have to slog through the 40+ hour campaign ever... single... league for every... single... character.

It's probably going to be a "no" for me.

The ascendancies were the final deal breakers as far as I'm concerned.

Yeah nah I'm skipping out until they change ascendancies, make the campaign shorter and also remove the death penalties in endgame. The game wastes way too much of my time for it to be worth it, it's just not fun. I got better games to play and things to do than delete hours and hours of my progress in PoE 2.

It's a vendor arpg, bought most of my items from vendors :|

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Afura#6483 wrote:

It's a vendor arpg, bought most of my items from vendors :|

Yep, exactly... just go to vendors and "buy everything" because in this looter game, picking up an item from the floor happens about once every 150 hours...

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Bacon_Overlord#1834 wrote:

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Toforto#2372 wrote:

Yep +1

This game is just slow,tedious,painful and boring. It's anything but fun.

If you think it's bad now... just remember you're going to have to slog through the 40+ hour campaign ever... single... league for every... single... character.

It's probably going to be a "no" for me.

The ascendancies were the final deal breakers as far as I'm concerned.

Yep, exactly... it's painful, tedious and it's not fun... you literally have to buy items all the time from vendors and trade with other people just to stay afloat... all the time...


The game is the worst chore I've ever played... I went back to Last Epoch until they realize it and turn it into a video game again...