New SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 Thread

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RandallPOE wrote:

The other big social media turn off for me is every single person who has had a cold/flu in the last 6 months claiming they had Coronavirus. Not sure how people can blame China for not acting on it in January this year when apparently nearly the entire population of the UK had it in November/December last year and nobody even batted an eyelid.

this is one thing i thought - that people would soon be claiming they had it just as a way to virtue signal or gain attention or a feeling of special importance or some crap like that

and yes, that does happen

Why are you guys even listening to predictions? We have predictions that the virus will disappear in a matter of months, others which point out that the isolation must last for more than an year. Its all pretty worthless when the threat is even today widely unknown.

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Raycheetah wrote:

Good news, everyone! That expert who set expectations off mass die-offs due to Covid-19 has revised his estimations:

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-british-expert-who-predicted-millions-of-coronavirus-deaths-makes-stunning-reversal/?utm_source=economics

Aren't experts awesome? =^[.]^=

I posted that same story above. xperts do make mistakes..Iraq WMDs...Hillary 100% Chance of winning, Corona pandemic but none will be as disastrous as this one... the economics of destroyed lives/businesses and destroying our status as world reserve currency trying to fix it will be end of American #1 IMO

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Snorkle_uk wrote:

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LennyLen wrote:

We're on day one of the nationwide four week lockdown, and already people in most of my Facebook groups are acting angry and stressed out. I think half the population might kill each other by the end of week four.

Makes you wonder - however will we handle that ever-prophecised time when a lot of the economy is automated and we finally get those 15-hour work weeks Keynes' promised us?...

were gonna have to switch production from drones to human beings. i think society can manage it, ggg are gonna have to order an awful lot more servers tho.


countries just need to step up and get their people through it financially. people have real money concerns and their governments are gonna have to help them out.

were gonna come out of this with 99% of our people still intact, unlike a war the deaths are not gonna be concentrated among young men in their prime. there isnt going to be cities turned to rubbed by bombs, were not gonna use up a ton of oil and metal metal. the problem is not going to be that our societies are stripped of the resources they need to function the way some other crisis would strip us. the problem is going to be on paper. we wrote a lot of little squiggles on paper, now in computer data, because we decided it would help us get the most our of our people and resources, a bunch of conceptual data we simply made up that would allow them to function to get real things done.

now were facing those little numbers we wrote down getting in the way. we will have the same people, resources, needs, demands, capabilities after that we had before, its just this construct on paper that will get in our way. the construct eventually boils down to who owes who what. its so vital to our real world logistics that it fixing it and changing it is monumental but were just gonna have to do what we need to do. we cant let the data hold real world back, its there to empower the world not to cripple it, if it ceases to do its job were gonna have to do the scary task of remaking it into something that works. we just cant lose sight of the fact its paper work, we wrote it down, we can tear it up and write down something new.

until then governments need to make sure people can eat and the people need to netflix and chill. if everyone just keeps perspective and does the right thing for society as a whole then were gonna be fine.

LOL there are trillions of moving parts to insure ppl eat. Especially so in modern era where people are collected in big cities so lockdown is impossible if people want to eat. Then why would farmers/ranchers/truck drivers etc put their ass on the line while u sit at home watching netflix? better be prepared to give em all the tea in china. Hyperinflation. Hope your rich or got gold bars.

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Johny_Snow wrote:

Why are you guys even listening to predictions? We have predictions that the virus will disappear in a matter of months, others which point out that the isolation must last for more than an year. Its all pretty worthless when the threat is even today widely unknown.

People like predictions that validate their own personal opinion.

Thats fine as long as they don't genuinely believe in them. Plenty of "experts" kept saying how the disease is less dangerous than the flu. Taking crap like this seriously might be dangerous.

its all a prerequisite

What is? You need to have underlying illnesses to make it worse? Not quite, the disease is about two times more contagious than the flu and its incubation period is like 3-4 times longer. This by itself makes it much worse. The fatalities will definitely go down once proper medicine/vaccine are created but it will remain more dangerous than the flu by a long shot.

Guys... It’s a Corona virus, cold viruses in general are contagious. Corona viruses are actually the biggest of viruses, they get their name because their protein hooks resemble that of a crown.

The actually name of the virus is SARS-CoV- 2, the illness is called covid-19.... Was just reading a lot of the threads many if you have some interesting perspectives but not much of an educated background. Some of you are really like out there in the conspiracy world, lol.

I’m not an expert, but I had an intensive course in molecular biology, super fucking amazing btw... I’ll say this, you guys should be more worried about the super strain of Gonorrhea. This virus will affect everyone so the best thing you can do is buff your immune system and stray away from people. And please please protect the elderly by keeping them quarantined.

I saw this senior citizen in the news literally sobbing, standing there in the isle because shelves were empty. So my point to many of you that are complaining, coming up with conspiracy theories... do society a favor and help your community by being active. Hell yesterday I went and volunteered at a food bank disinfecting and bagging food for the elderly,

So yeah, if you’re healthy, young... get off your ass and do something about it instead of complaining by responsibly aiding your community.

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Aim_Deep wrote:

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Raycheetah wrote:

Good news, everyone! That expert who set expectations off mass die-offs due to Covid-19 has revised his estimations:

https://trendingpolitics.com/breaking-british-expert-who-predicted-millions-of-coronavirus-deaths-makes-stunning-reversal/?utm_source=economics

Aren't experts awesome? =^[.]^=

I posted that same story above. xperts do make mistakes..Iraq WMDs...Hillary 100% Chance of winning, Corona pandemic but none will be as disastrous as this one... the economics of destroyed lives/businesses and destroying our status as world reserve currency trying to fix it will be end of American #1 IMO

It is likely that what some are saying was an "over-reaction" ... has saved lives.

One can't go look for a new job after being laid off due to the Coronavirus epidemic if one is dead.

The problem with "models" is that they are only models.

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And, guess what? If it hadn't been that guys "model" that was being used in an attempt to make a prediction, it would have been someone else's. One uses the data and modeling that one has the most confidence in. To fail to do that and to use those things would be criminal.

So, where are the issues, there?

Maybe it's aerosol transmission vs droplet? That could make a huge difference even though there seems to be good evidence for aerosol transmission. Maybe it's a much smaller fraction of the mechanism of transmission than earlier thought? Or, perhaps, maybe the maturation of this kind of epidemic in the "wild" takes longer and we're just not at the "peak?"

Honestly, right now, I'm very leery of anyone suggesting that we (The World) reduce our response to this epidemic. If anything, I'm for increasing quarantine efforts.

China's confirmed load ("Confirmed") is around 80k infected. The US is about to hit that mark. IMO, before the end of the week, it'll be around 100k or more. I'd be willing to bet money on it if such an act wouldn't be so gravely demeaning...

I'm just as worried about certain political groups "massaging" numbers to suit their own agendas, like "let's kill grandma so the economy can get going again!"

Everyone got their "M.A.K.G." hats ready?

There is no way right now to know if we have "flattened" the curve. Why? There's no friggin' "curve" yet, that's why. It's headed in one direction and that direction is "up."

AFAIK the "modeling" I'm not surprised that a "model" doesn't seem to have accurate predictions. We still can't tell what the weather is going to be in 24 hrs unless it's "extreme." The model in question was basically a "worst case" scenario and any number of factors could have impacted real-world performance.

We don't know the true mechanics yet. There is no scientific "knowledge" without understanding the mechanics that are behind an observed phenomena. We may be able to predict something, but we can't "know" it until we know how it works.

We don't even really know why some viruses appear to be Seasonal. They just... do. (Water/humidity/temperature susceptibility is a possible reason, but could be incorrect. :))