New SARS-CoV-2 / COVID-19 Thread
" [Removed by Support] Right about what exactly? It's hard to keep track of *****'s positions on anything, given how often they change. As for the rest of the video, it's just a standard r*g*t w*n* youtube host railing about the same story already linked above. The argument still makes little sense. Last edited by Lisa_GGG#0000 on Mar 30, 2020, 1:00:41 PM
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" In an effort to be concise, since I yammer too much. :) There's reality, then there's perception. The Market is a mixture of both. But, regardless of what motivates movement, the actual mechanism that does that is the same. So, addressing the mechanism, moving money contributing to "value" the amount and "mass" of that being done has consistent effect. It doesn't matter why something gains in value, or loses it, only that it does. The foundations, though, are a bit different. When those are entirely based on perception, things get dangerous just like they did in 2008. I don't think the foundations, the "value," represented in the markets today are based on mostly "perception." I think they're truly, mostly, based on good fundamental value. Some adjustments do need to be made, but I think the base is strong enough to weather those and the current quarantine situations. But, as I said earlier, I also think that "moving money" is the life-blood of commerce. It's not just the value of something that is important. IF money does not flow, things rapidly... die. IF we get to the point where the moving money from exchanges, investments, sales, loans, general commercial activity is truly lost then it would be a very serious situation. That "moving money" has a positive effect all by itself. Can it compensate for "bad things?" I think so. But, I could be wrong too - If I knew for a fact, I'd likely be smart enough to already be a bajillionaire from armchair trading. " Ah! I remember those guys. Mostly for their "Clock" which I thought was very awesome. The trouble with planning for 10,000 years though is what happens during the intervening 999 years. But, I've long been of the belief that there should be a Department of Departments somewhere that does nothing but make and implement these sorts of very long-term plans. It's important, IMO. Unfortunately, the only evidence that can be gained to demonstrate whether or not any 10,000 year plan is conceptually valid is either gained by waiting 10,000 years or "building something." That clock? It's a tangible thing. An idea or a plan that only generates data over a period of time that spans many generation can't prove itself during the time it's being tested. (Enough of these being done, however, yields a shotgun approach who's benefit is... "mass." Somewhere, in some way, that mass-effect is thought to be enough to have a long-term positive outcome if individual projects fail.) Last edited by Morkonan#5844 on Mar 30, 2020, 1:14:14 PM
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" No, it's not "propaganda." eg: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8160931/Spain-returns-faulty-coronavirus-testing-kits-bought-Chinese-company.html There have been many instances of general "product returns" and quality issues, some being very real health concerns, of large runs of products from Chinese manufacturers being returned. But, Chinese manufacturers manufacture... a lot of products. Even so, things like jewelry being made out of outrageously toxic metals, presumably because those raw materials are cheap, and pet food being poisonous and personal care items like toothpaste and make-up causing actual wounds... I've dealt with some Chinese manufacturers. I've see what certain manufacturing segment's practices actually are and what they produce. Some standards are fine, but many do not come even close to equaling the minimum manufacturing standards of companies in other nations. They slip through the system because they're just simply not being highly scrutinized until "something bad happens." That doesn't mean they're all bad, it just means that there are plenty of opportunities and examples for them to be bad. :) Note: ISO certification should be a heck of a lot more widespread and, IMO, much more closely monitored by consumers of certain products. " I don't even know where this comes from, but I don't think it's based on any facts. Nobody wants and nobody needs "enemies." Saying they do is... propaganda. :) Anyway, let's stay out of that kind of line of reasoning altogether, OK? This is about the entire World against a Virus, not about individual countries making enemies out of each other. Covid-19 doesn't care about borders and doesn't care who's government its host owes allegiance to. |
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" ive seen that article before. theres a big difference between a company in china made some dodgy testing kits and china, the government, is intentionally sending out all the ventilators and ppe equipment to the west faulty in order to seem like theyre helping but actually not help the west. " so all that stuff they bought from a chinese company, some of the testing kits they thought were faulty, and the spanish ministry is replacing them with testing kits bought from... the same chinese company. how is this china as a state intentionally sending out bad stuff to the west to pull some kind of trick on us? that is a spin. " that is a naive view of the world that unfortunately is not based on the facts. |
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Last edited by elesham4ever#1687 on Mar 31, 2020, 9:01:43 AM
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" "Shenzhen Bioeasy Biotechnology has not yet been licensed by the Chinese National Medical Products Administration to sell its products,” he said. There are more than 100 Chinese companies selling coronavirus testing kits to Europe, but many are not even licensed to sell in China. " More accurate wording would be "The preliminary investigations have not found clear evidence of human-to-human transmission.” Nobody knew any better. Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence, subsequent investigations found there was clear evidence of human-to-human transmission. They need documented cases of direct human-to-human transmissions. Not speculation or assumptions. Evidences, you actually need to go find it. Then China sequenced the genome of the COVID-19 virus and share it with the rest of the world. Are they mad? Last edited by awesome999#2945 on Mar 30, 2020, 6:24:46 PM
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" Incoherent word salad. |
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" You must be new to Altna's posts lol. They're all like that. He never speaks directly or in a straightforward fashion (which is probably a smart move on these forums, given the mod policy). Last edited by Exile009#1139 on Mar 30, 2020, 9:50:58 PM
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USA seems worse off than Europe. New York and New Jersey aside, the numbers for confirmed infections per state are too even. Spread looks completely out of control and without a complete country-wide lockdown I doubt there'll be any permanent results in stopping the virus. That, or just completely quarantine the risk groups and let the virus run its course through the rest of the population.
Either way the bodies are gonna pile up. |
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" Alphabet soup from incoherent word salad? Can you not spell it out? |
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