Wuhan China Coronavirus.

Remember how fast it blasted to 70k cases? They say it's close to 90k, but I think it's probably abound 125k to 150k if not much higher....Since so many cases are mild, MANY of them are probably going un-reported...

Here's an important quote:

"A Chinese study published Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine analyzing 1,099 patients at more than 500 hospitals throughout China calculated a death rate of 1.4%, substantially lower than earlier studies. Assuming there are many more cases with no or very mild symptoms, “the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%,” U.S. health officials wrote in an editorial in the journal."

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Mentoya wrote:

Here's an important quote:

"A Chinese study published Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine analyzing 1,099 patients at more than 500 hospitals throughout China calculated a death rate of 1.4%, substantially lower than earlier studies. Assuming there are many more cases with no or very mild symptoms, “the case fatality rate may be considerably less than 1%,” U.S. health officials wrote in an editorial in the journal."

I'm only slightly more inclined to trust U.S. health officials than I am the Chinese study they're citing, here. =9[.]9=

It's still blown way out of proportion. Regardless of the "preppers" for the end of the world, or those who do not care at all.

This thing is at this stage a nuisance. It's ugly,it exists, it kills, but it will not end civilization as we know it. This is not the thing that will end our species.

Common diseases kill more people/month than this, the difference? Those things are not blown way out of proportion in the media. Do some fact checking, how many die of aids,cancer,heck the common flu per month/year in your country,your city.

This is just one of those "and another thing that will make my life crap".

You can die in a car crash, someone might detonate a bomb in your culturally enriched city, you might get knifed by a methead, or get gangraped,or robbed and murdered, or you might simply slip and break your neck on the fall, added to the number of things that might happen to you,here comes the next contenter,corona.

This is not 28 days later or the movie contagion. People need to cool off.
Should you eat healthy? obviously, get a few vitamin pills every now and then? obviously, exercise? obviously,wash your hands? of course. Be in constant fear and panic that coronavirus will kill your family and end all humanity? GTFO.

By no means should one simply ignore it, however the shitstorm I see in the media just boggles the mind. You think ww3 just broke out and we will all die in the coming nuclear holocaust.

I get that in some people's twisted fantasy,this would be a good thing,they actually want it. Unfortunately it's just not going to happen, this is not plague inc. Coronavirus does not have the same speed for levelups as you have in the game to make it infect and kill people fast enough to end humanity.

Just walk in a village infected with ebola, afterall changes of you dying of ebola are slim right?
Comparing causes of death is the dumbest shit ever, and again is not how math works.

Also the disgusting misrepresentation of points being made is while not surprising on this forum it's still just that fucking disgusting.
The only ones having childish fantasies about armageddon are you ppl.

Once more then, the virus is a problem mostly cause of how many ppl need to be hospitalised not the current death rate, no medical system in the world is equipped to handle these numbers if it goes epidemic.
This will cause massive social unrest, nobody is staying calm when their loved ones aren't getting threatment simply cause there are no hospital beds availabe.

And if it goes epidemic and city's go on lockdown, stores will run out of food cause of both suply problems and panic buying, sure the goverment will send in suplies but realisticly they can only do that with small outbreaks in a few cities.

Now ofc these are all worst case scenario's but given the statements of medical proffesionals not outside the realm of possibility anymore.

But he keep worrying about the social stigma of being someone who prepares(as if thats a bad thing) afterall your status on some dumb online forum is much more important then your safety.

The jump in the number of deaths in US from COVID-19 is surprising. Some of US health experts predicted the mortality rate of the coronavirus will ultimately be less than 1%. Looking at the global data, it is closer to 3.4%. The coronavirus might had been spreading undetected in US for weeks. Although no one is quite sure how far. It will be interesting to see how US respond to this.

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deathflower wrote:

The jump in the number of deaths in US from COVID-19 is surprising. Some of US health experts predicted the mortality rate of the coronavirus will ultimately be less than 1%. Looking at the global data, it is closer to 3.4%. The coronavirus might had been spreading undetected in US for weeks. Although no one is quite sure how far. It will be interesting to see how US respond to this.

Those numbers are skewed. It’s closer to 1%
Of course the numbers are going to look high when the virus spreads through a nursing home, where most of those people are on the verge of death anyway

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Mentoya wrote:

Those numbers are skewed. It’s closer to 1%
Of course the numbers are going to look high when the virus spreads through a nursing home, where most of those people are on the verge of death anyway

The break in consistency and lack of conformity is a problem, isn't it?

You should go back and read the study and the editorial of the news article you quoted. It does not support your claim. It is bad unethical journalism. They are quoting out of context and you fall for it. I was gonna ignore it but maybe not; since you bought it back up.


The title of the study was Clinical Characteristics of Coronavirus Disease 2019 in China. The intention wasn't to determine the mortality rate but the Characteristics of Coronavirus Disease and 1.4% was mortality rate of their sample not general population or of a particular population.

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2002032

"We extracted data regarding 1099 patients with laboratory-confirmed Covid-19 from 552 hospitals in 30 provinces, autonomous regions, and municipalities in mainland China through January 29, 2020. The primary composite end point was admission to an intensive care unit (ICU), the use of mechanical ventilation, or death."

"The median age of the patients was 47 years; 41.9% of the patients were female. The primary composite end point occurred in 67 patients (6.1%), including 5.0% who were admitted to the ICU, 2.3% who underwent invasive mechanical ventilation, and 1.4% who died. "


Edit:Deliberating omitting words when quoting is also disingenuous.

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"A study by Chinese researchers published Friday in the New England Journal of Medicine analyzing 1,099 patients at more than 500 hospitals throughout China calculated a death rate of 1.4%, substantially lower than earlier studies that focused on patients in Wuhan, where it started and has been most severe."

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The break in consistency and lack of conformity is a problem, isn't it?

You should go back and read the study and the editorial of the news article you quoted. It does not support your claim. It is bad unethical journalism. They are quoting out of context and you fall for it. I was gonna ignore it but maybe not; since you bought it back up.

It doesn't change the fact that I know how the FEAR-MONGERING Media distorts things in the attempt to frighten people.

Also, in order to calculate the death rate of any virus, they need to know hoa many people have it. THEY HAVE NO CLUE HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE THIS VIRUS.
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It could be 150k to 300k+ for all we know. One has to be extremely naive to believe that the amount of those who have the virus is only around 90K.

My point being is that if you were to take the REAL NUMBER of those who have it and THEN calculate the death rate, in my opinion you would find a death rate much closer to 1% than 3%.

You can confirm deaths, but you CANNOT confirmed the amount of people who have the virus since a majority of people never even go to the doctor when they have mild symptoms.

That's a very common sense rational explanation as to why the death of 3% is way too high....

BUT Printing 3% does sell more newspapers and increases more views of News Articles...

"Classic" news - like papers and TV - ale loosing attention in favour for internet sources so they radicalize with "news feed". "Dread news" about "world end" are getting more attention but they are not about what really is happening.

My fear is that "proposed solution" that will be promoted and will come from "big pharma" will cause more problems thatn virus itself.