Why is there no auction house in POE?

not to be mean but the trade system is crap guys :/

im playing on xbox one and the step needed just to by a single item....controller in one hand cellphone in another one plus waiting 1 2 hour for probably nothing its awfull i would not even want to sell something on the market

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Mortyx wrote:

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Deathfairy wrote:

But honestly i think trade is fine as is. I do craft a lot , i do think crafting my gear is a lot more fun then just buying it. Sometimes i have to because rng is rng. So because of that i trade a lot. I buy and sell mats, and crafted gear, i make currency with some minor flipping. So i make 40-100 trades a day easy and i think it is fine... I do not see 40 messages bs you talking about since i switched to official site. Might have to whisper 10 times, that is extra 60 seconds if you expect it to happen like buying 4 catalysts i did today.
So IMHO majority of trade horror stories are combination of natural human exaggeration, misusing the system and yes some really unlucky real examples mixed in. But hey this game has steep learning curve, learning trade is just one of those things you need to learn. Which some some people including me actually do enjoy learning.

While i think trade is fine, i can see and understand why people have issues and i am not against improving some of the more frustrating aspects of it as long as it does not negatively affect other aspects of the game. And Ah most definitely will.

Just out of curiosity since you are someone that trade a lot and occasionally flip. Do you use any of the followings: trade-macro, mercury-trade, any other of the multiple 3rd party apps that "automate trade"?

I used both. Nether of them automate trade, at most it makes slightly easier, And as i mentioned i understand why some slight improvements can be made. But here is the reality on these 2 things.

1) Trade macro as far as i am concerned provides 2 key functionalities
a) price check on SOME subset of items, it does not work on more then half the items correctly, and frankly majority of player base that use it miss use it horribly.
b) Completely separate from trade it gives aggregate info on item like weapon dps and total elemental resistances.

For the record it pretty much does not work this league so i don't use it and while it is less convenient hardly too much of an issue to ME. And that is in part that i already know large chunk of information it provides, like which jewels are not vendor for example.

2) Mercury trade, it is pretty much useless unless you selling a lot of items like maps where you get 20-30 whispers for different maps. And here it is very useful, however there is a big BUT. The only reason maps have value is precisely because of this hassle which makes 90%+ of people never sell their maps. You make it easy and simple and maps will drop to 1c within few days, for example i personally have about 400 t14+ maps and some people have thousands easy. But right now you can make a choice, i will spent next 20 min trading maps and make 100c but this will cost me 20 min of gameplay, and this gives maps value.

In the end of the day even with these tools the key part of you having to invest time to make a trade remains.

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not to be mean but the trade system is crap guys :/

im playing on xbox one and the step needed just to by a single item....controller in one hand cellphone in another one plus waiting 1 2 hour for probably nothing its awfull i would not even want to sell something on the market

What? Didn't you see claims in this thread that console has well functioning AH that does not break the game? As you saying they were lying on OFFICIAL forum? No way.

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Deathfairy wrote:

The part you missing in this whole situation is that YOU saying some arbitrary idea or other horde of forums trolls does not make it a good idea either does it? And yet this is consistently your one and only argument.

No its not at all, in fact Ive been clear many times my main argument is not particularly for an AH or not, just that trade is awful and can be improved. And that neither players or devs should settle into a lazy "well, we all know it sucks, but lets settle for something" attitude.

What you said seems opposite of what this very thread shows.

Yes, personally I think an AH would vastly improve gaming experience, particularly for new players. Apparently most dont even understand sockets and yet we expect them to navigate 3rd party trade, or even more obscure crafting, etc. But regardless, I dont pretend to have the perfect solution, only that of all the games Ive played, this one easily has the worst trade setup.

You, uniqueheart (sic), me, and (edit) many people aree the current system is not strong, with varying levels of dissatisfaction with the problems.

(Whenever you say everyone its invariably wrong, but its telling when even the biggest AH haters admit this current system sucks.)

Except for the fact that trade isn't awful. I have never failed to trade for what I was looking for.

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trixxar wrote:

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Deathfairy wrote:

The part you missing in this whole situation is that YOU saying some arbitrary idea or other horde of forums trolls does not make it a good idea either does it? And yet this is consistently your one and only argument.

No its not at all, in fact Ive been clear many times my main argument is not particularly for an AH or not, just that trade is awful and can be improved. And that neither players or devs should settle into a lazy "well, we all know it sucks, but lets settle for something" attitude.

What you said seems opposite of what this very thread shows.

Yes, personally I think an AH would vastly improve gaming experience, particularly for new players. Apparently most dont even understand sockets and yet we expect them to navigate 3rd party trade, or even more obscure crafting, etc. But regardless, I dont pretend to have the perfect solution, only that of all the games Ive played, this one easily has the worst trade setup.

You, uniqueheart (sic), me, and (edit) many people aree the current system is not strong, with varying levels of dissatisfaction with the problems.

(Whenever you say everyone its invariably wrong, but its telling when even the biggest AH haters admit this current system sucks.)

First of it is a lie an you consistently insist AH is fine, including in this post. Second of no one to my limited knowledge saying trade can't be improved, so i have no clue who are you arguing with then

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Deathfairy wrote:

First of it is a lie an you consistently insist AH is fine, including in this post. Second of no one to my limited knowledge saying trade can't be improved, so i have no clue who are you arguing with then

Here are five examples, in this thread alone, of me suggesting solutions besides an AH or admitting I could be wrong, but still there are many ways to improve. Saying Ive said an AH is the perfect solution only because I say it is is wrong or a flat lie. Yes, I think its harmless, but where you are wrong is that Im not pretending its the only solution or will work infallibly.

Are you honest enough to admit your either lie or mistake, or just another troll?

This is ONLY from this thread.



"Id honestly be perfectly happy if they rebalanced this game around SSF. (But they havent yet)."

"(talking about a better trade system) Maybe no trade, maybe balance around SSF, maybe easy trade. But not this"

"there are multiple improvements possible from full AH to smaller improvements "

"Its also just lazy game design, ignoring the vast amount of options to improve trade even outside an AH."

"I also think that even if you and Chris are 100% right, there are dozens of ways to create trade barriers without resorting to the worst one "

Holy something no one arguing with you that it can be improved. I argued with anyone who want to put ah in this game. That includes you.

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. Yes, personally I think an AH would vastly improve gaming experience, particularly for new players.

Stop exploding my head you push idea of ah in every post, the fact that you also think there might be other solutions does not change any thing. And frankly your view an ah makes any of your views on state an future of the trade let's say questionable.

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Deathfairy wrote:

Stop exploding my head you push idea of ah in every post, the fact that you also think there might be other solutions does not change any thing. .

You stated my only argument was an AH and the only reason behind it was that a number of people wanted it.

I proved you wrong, with references in this thread, 5 times. At least you came back to own it I guess.

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trixxar wrote:

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Deathfairy wrote:

Stop exploding my head you push idea of ah in every post, the fact that you also think there might be other solutions does not change any thing. .

You stated my only argument was an AH and the only reason behind it was that a number of people wanted it.

I proved you wrong, with references in this thread, 5 times. At least you came back to own it I guess.

"First of it is a lie an you consistently insist AH is fine" That is what i said exactly where does it say it is your only argument?
I don't care about your other arguments, i have very little desire to discuss trade problems and possible solution with the person who thinks AH is fine. In my head this shows the lack of basic understanding of the situation by this person. And doing so in a thread called WHY there is no AH in poe might also not be right place either.