Announcing Ruthless

I. Love. You. GGG.

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EzequielD11 wrote:

Nice, now push all the friction you want in ruthless and leave softcore alone and fun.

Gl to the 4 guys who will be playing this mode.

I'm pretty sure a lot of people will give this mode a try but most of them will quit before act 2. GGG has a lot of work to do to keep the balance between the challenging features and the annoying features.

Personally I'll enjoy ruthless at the beginning but once people start clearing maps in 1 minute with queen of the forest deadeye builds, it won't be as fun anymore.

In addition, this manifesto doesn't say anything about magic find gear. So I'm guessing magic find gear will be available in ruthless mode, which beats the whole purpose of ruthless.

So you're not supposed to get to maps or red maps or bosses. What is point then?

I mean, I consider myself a ruthless player but without anything to aspire to there is little point in the self-mutilation.

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Nepenthess wrote:

I was super "HELL-YA" until I get to the no movement skills bit :S
Not even Lightning Warp? :P

For real though, what is left after that list?

Flicker strike :) Flicker to enemy, kill it with other skill. Repeat.

TLDR. this is "the vision" manifesto

Grind mode. Nothing described in this entire post can't be overcome by grinding. Unless there are some more unannounced difficulty changes planned, there's nothing "ruthless" about this.

With that being said, I'll still play it.

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Bex_GGG wrote:

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otinanai2 wrote:

What's the deal with "Challenges will not be enabled in Ruthless in 3.20."? It's significantly harder than normal mode, why not let us complete challenges?

It's likely that we'll allow challenges to be completed in Ruthless from 3.21 onward. It's disabled for 3.20 because some challenges may not be completable in Ruthless.

3.21+ challenges will be 'easy' enough to complete in Ruthless? This is a buff*!

(*until it's clarified that I'm wrong, and then I'm sad)

cant wait :)

Looking good. Glad you took up the suggestion of lowering gem XP to prevent a hegemonic caster meta.

Basically it seems perfect for people (like me) who like the 'item drops actually matter' aspects of SSF, but not the forced solo aspect.

Definitely will be playing this at some point in 3.20. Maybe league start, maybe a little way in to the league.

Wasn't expecting div cards to be turned off, but that will be an interesting change. Ditto the jewellery bases being rare. Farming 'The Lover' and 'The Opulent' were on my radar as options, well, not any more.

Moveskills being gone rather than just nerfed hard surprised me. This will make movespeed on gear 100% essential.

Two things that should change though: HC ruthless being parented to Void just seems pointless, and item drops being unallocated is just an obnoxious decision that makes out-of-game blacklists essential.