⛵☁️[3.25] The Arachnophobia Allstars| Chaos Guardian CI|The dirty Scorpion-tail|Herald of Agony 150M+

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JoeBroski wrote:
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radius540 wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
PoB is updated with the new 3.16 memory vault, new activated reservation-mastery and with the golden rule:

https://pastebin.com/8MbsKkL4

Now 402 mana are unreserved (with high skillreservationsupports - much too much, 100 unreserved mana are enough - much place to vary and raise ar and es more with specialised manamanagement), 74/ 75% full block, no glancing blows, 6M damage in tanky edition, up to 10M - 16M in full geared damage-edition possible.
You can vary also with "raze and pillage" or "prodigal perfection" 4 passives or switch in tempest shield. "safeguard" is still bugged: add 15% spellblock manually.


When posting the current pob, I could put a version without the Skin of the lords, as finding one with iron reflexes with the right colors in this league will cost about 100ex because of the +2 buff...


Let's just hope the access to Breach this league and the new atlas passives that people will be running will flood the market with Skin of the Loyal/Lords. Fingers crossed.


hehe, yes, it's a big buff to the Lords, but not so many builds use their skins.
We can vary very much with keynotes and socketcolours, and also skin of the loyals are more than enough for red t16's , so I am not worried in the moment.
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Chromino wrote:
PoB is updated with the new 3.16 memory vault, new activated reservation-mastery and with the golden rule:

https://pastebin.com/8N4Km44N

Now 402 mana are unreserved (with high skillreservationsupports - much too much, 100 unreserved mana are enough - much place to vary and raise ar and es more with specialised manamanagement), 74/ 75% full block, no glancing blows, 6M damage in tanky edition, up to 10M - 16M in full geared damage-edition possible.

You can vary also with "raze and pillage" or "prodigal perfection" 4 passives or switch in tempest shield.

"safeguard" is still bugged: add 15% spellblock manually.


Some feedback:

* now without flasks we are down to 40k armour, which tends to happen in big endgame fights.

* the PoB assumes that Bastion of hope triggers on both spells and attacks, but we do not have an attack setup and we mainly use BL and brands. Also, it is based on "recent" so we need to keep attacking and using spells every 4 seconds. Spells is easy, but attack will be quite clunky (unless using the Cyclone version)

* Maybe the best way is to use Tempest shield and cyclone and remove safeguard?
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Chromino wrote:


Yes, that is still not done and have to be updated too. Do you have somewhere the lines to copy & edit?
I am not sure if Herald's helmetenchant and ring skillreservations are changed in 3.16, but discord artisan is changed, so will be the gear.


I'm not sure if that information is even available yet. I assume it just follows the pattern so "Herald of Agony has XX% increased Reservation Efficiency" with the rings at 40 and helmet enchant at 60.
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Zepepsico wrote:
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Chromino wrote:
PoB is updated with the new 3.16 memory vault, new activated reservation-mastery and with the golden rule:

https://pastebin.com/8N4Km44N

Now 402 mana are unreserved (with high skillreservationsupports - much too much, 100 unreserved mana are enough - much place to vary and raise ar and es more with specialised manamanagement), 74/ 75% full block, no glancing blows, 6M damage in tanky edition, up to 10M - 16M in full geared damage-edition possible.

You can vary also with "raze and pillage" or "prodigal perfection" 4 passives or switch in tempest shield.

"safeguard" is still bugged: add 15% spellblock manually.


Some feedback:

* now without flasks we are down to 40k armour, which tends to happen in big endgame fights.

* the PoB assumes that Bastion of hope triggers on both spells and attacks, but we do not have an attack setup and we mainly use BL and brands. Also, it is based on "recent" so we need to keep attacking and using spells every 4 seconds. Spells is easy, but attack will be quite clunky (unless using the Cyclone version)

* Maybe the best way is to use Tempest shield and cyclone and remove safeguard?


Thank you very much Zepepsico!

Yes, temepest shield is extreme strong 3.16 and a very nice otion! There will follow build-editions with glancing blows and temoest shield, yes.

Cyclone is only otimal for 55 virulences, but that is enough for t16, you can take it in if you want melee style, see section gloves in "gear, skills, links".

Bastion of hope's attackblock is triggered with (anomalous) reckoning on block.
The armour is these days not inclusive the upcoming missing determination and grace buffs and flat ar/ ev added, so it will be big on the weekend and you can buff armour further when you prefer. Unbuffed and buffed armour will raise much with new determination and new grace in 3.16.

Also with new armour (or ev-) formula and new fullblock you will need very much, very much less es/ block as in 3.15.

I am personally much more worried about counterguarding dot and degen, but it is easy to change damage into defences if wanted & needed in the build.
Last edited by Chromino on Oct 19, 2021, 12:24:32 PM
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Chromino wrote:


Yes, that is still not done and have to be updated too. Do you have somewhere the lines to copy & edit?
I am not sure if Herald's helmetenchant and ring skillreservations are changed in 3.16, but discord artisan is changed, so will be the gear.


I'm not sure if that information is even available yet. I assume it just follows the pattern so "Herald of Agony has XX% increased Reservation Efficiency" with the rings at 40 and helmet enchant at 60.


swapping to this for rings

Herald of Agony has 40% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

and for helm

Herald of Agony has 60% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

left me -1% reservation with most recent pob link from Chromino.
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Trelander wrote:
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Chromino wrote:


Yes, that is still not done and have to be updated too. Do you have somewhere the lines to copy & edit?
I am not sure if Herald's helmetenchant and ring skillreservations are changed in 3.16, but discord artisan is changed, so will be the gear.


I'm not sure if that information is even available yet. I assume it just follows the pattern so "Herald of Agony has XX% increased Reservation Efficiency" with the rings at 40 and helmet enchant at 60.


swapping to this for rings

Herald of Agony has 40% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

and for helm

Herald of Agony has 60% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

left me -1% reservation with most recent pob link from Chromino.


Yeah, I find it difficult we'll be able to fit Determination, Discipline, and HoAg without much more reservation from the tree. 23 just isn't enough. There isn't even a Self-Control notable. I mean, the tree reservation is nearly completely negated by Memory Vault.
Last edited by JoeBroski on Oct 19, 2021, 12:40:11 PM
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Chromino wrote:


Yes, that is still not done and have to be updated too. Do you have somewhere the lines to copy & edit?
I am not sure if Herald's helmetenchant and ring skillreservations are changed in 3.16, but discord artisan is changed, so will be the gear.


I'm not sure if that information is even available yet. I assume it just follows the pattern so "Herald of Agony has XX% increased Reservation Efficiency" with the rings at 40 and helmet enchant at 60.


It should be 75, see patch notes:

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Helmet enchantments that previously granted reduced reservation of a specific skill now grant the following values of increased mana reservation efficiency for that skill. Existing items will instead have twice the previous reduced reservation value (generally lower than the new values). Enchantments for skills that have 50% base reservation now grant 20/30% increased mana reservation efficiency, for Merciless and Eternal Labyrinth versions respectively. Enchantments for skills that have 35% base reservation now grant 30/45% increased mana reservation efficiency. Enchantments for skills that have 25% or flat base reservation now grant 50/75% increased mana reservation efficiency.
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Trelander wrote:
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Chromino wrote:


Yes, that is still not done and have to be updated too. Do you have somewhere the lines to copy & edit?
I am not sure if Herald's helmetenchant and ring skillreservations are changed in 3.16, but discord artisan is changed, so will be the gear.


I'm not sure if that information is even available yet. I assume it just follows the pattern so "Herald of Agony has XX% increased Reservation Efficiency" with the rings at 40 and helmet enchant at 60.


swapping to this for rings

Herald of Agony has 40% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

and for helm

Herald of Agony has 60% increased Mana Reservation Efficiency

left me -1% reservation with most recent pob link from Chromino.


Hi Trelander,

thank you very much! Very fine with the concrete numbers, that helps a lot!

Most easy workaround is to take in awakened added fire damage, 120% reservationmultiplier, it adds +1 HoA levels in 3.16, but damage decreases from 6,2 M to 5.9M - that is still enough.
You can also take in summon phantasms-support, a conqueror efficiancy or less skill reservation on other jewels and clusters or stack "uncompromising" / "self-control".

Updated pob is now 176 unreserved mana:

https://pastebin.com/jPgCKN7P
Last edited by Chromino on Oct 19, 2021, 1:57:50 PM
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Chromino wrote:

Also with new armour (or ev-) formula and new fullblock you will need very much, very much less es/ block as in 3.15.


You can never have enough ES!
I just want to say WOW to both Chromino and the different contributors in this thread. It is great to see how you spar and work on improving the build!

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