[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone
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Having played this build a few leagues ago and again this league (both SSF) I think both sides of the argument about surviveability have some merit.
The LL version is definitely not as tanky as the CI version, and having played both, I much preferred the CI version. I do not see damage being an issue, even with the CI version, so no need to make a build that is far less tanky just so you can kill something 30% quicker. I would take 10ES with 500k damage over 7kES with 1M damage any day. You still get the occasional 1 shot even with 10K ES, but this is just the game. Unless you play a max block glad or something, you will always be squishy. Regarding damage, look at my profile, all SSF gear, and I can literally just run through mobs in a juiced up T16 map and things die instantly. Bosses take a bit longer, but still melt quickly. With this build as it sits I have done 20 wave Simul, Shaper, A6 Sirus, multiple 10 way boss fights, Trialmaster, and every Ultimatum in every map to the maximum wave. I think the cluster jewel build is a bit of a cluster f@#k to be honest, and never even went that way. I want to have wicked ward, and tons of ES, with enough damage to kill mobs. Focusing on damage over survivability is where the build took a bit of a turn for the worst in my opinion (no offence Shak). The original build was better, although to be fair, being SSF I have not tired the tweaked version of the "new" builds. TLDR : In short, build is still strong, tanky and can do most, if not all content, just tweak it to your play style and gear, and concentrate most on ES than DPS. Last edited by l33tsmurf#3173 on May 24, 2021, 10:06:46 PM
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I think its fair to say that this build kills bosses. Definitely not "melts" them.
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" Yeah agreed. Boss killing can take a bit of time so it might require you to learn those mechanics in order to win those fights but for mapping the build is quick and easy. |
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" This guy gets it!! Except CI and Wicked Ward sucks :P I have 10.5k ES, 3.8k ES regen per second and 13mil DPS and will take that over 500k dps any day haha Everyone complaining about getting one shot is either low ES, bad flask uptime, low regen and level 93-95 trying to fit in full clusters in their setup which is not optimal. Shak's Endgame POB with cluster is level 100 for reason. If your not willing to put in the effort and follow the endgame setup the way its intended you have no right to complain. This is a league starter build that will get you to red maps very easily , but if you want to steamroll t16 maps and clear all content easily you need to invest currency plain and simple. Vortex damage and defence has really high scalability, but don't expect to be steam rolling t16s on 20ex budget with this build. So if you don't want to invest actual currency into the build go find another build and get out of this post. FYI: I still get one shot randomly sometimes. No build in the game is one shot proof. Its how the game is designed. Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 12:52:24 PM
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" It definitely melts bosses. Just not with your gear setup. @weikor You opinion means nothing when you have never played Occultist or even gotten any high level characters on your account even min maxed. Here is A9 Conqueror with Corrupted 8 mod with extra health with Hexproof. Which means I have 40% less damage without EE and no curses. The Conqueror still dies in less than 10 seconds, normally 2-3 seconds with EE up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqMeBdDUfqw There isn't one build in POE that melts endgame bosses without investing currency Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 2:25:30 PM
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" A little hint some of us never ran t16 maps with the level of your gear and such low dps. I was rank 2 level 100 Vortex this league and I ran t10-13 and delve depth 180-205 until I got to 98. The last two levels I did party leveling because its too good to pass up This is a league starter build at the core and will get you to red maps very quick. You will have a hard time in t14-t16 with your dps. I have never seen anyone not follow a guide so bad. I have no idea how you have less than 1.5mil dps using Low Life, no wonder your complaining. Please get rid of that warlords mark ring its overwriting one of your curses and upgrade your wand and gems asap Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 12:18:03 PM
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Biggest mistake new players are making
If your trying to do t14-t16 at level 90-95 and keep getting killed. Doesn't it make sense that the game is telling you your not strong enough for that tier of Map? drop down to a tier of map you can clear in less than 2 minutes and get more levels or invest more currency into your Energy Shield and Damage. Don't blame the build when none of you complaining have any characters past 95 Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 1:01:47 PM
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Here is another example of what investment will get you.
https://youtu.be/FVkqYEZFC2I 50c for Sceptre 9ex for awakened gems 12ex for the materials I purchased to craft all my rare items including +2 Amulet. 70c for Energy from Within and I double corrupted it my self. 22ex for Watchers Eye 12ex total for unlinked corrupted Shavs and I linked it my self using the crafting bench. 2ex for cluster bases all crafted myself 3ex for Helm 2ex for Prism Guardian 70c for Mark of Shaper and I divined it myself. All harvest crafts, beast crafts where free and farmed by my self. Overall I spent a little over 60ex this league to get 10.4k ES, 3.8k Regen and 13mil Shaper DPS. I will be upgrading to this wand that I sniped for 2ex once I add 15% dot multi suffix from harvest crafts, then multi mod Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 1:58:59 PM
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" I get where you're coming from and some people's criticisms of the build can be unfair, but for the number 2 vortex player to come in and tell people that's he's never seen someone follow a build worse is equally not good for this community. It's a good sign of health for a community to have people come in and express their fustrations, that way, others can discuss what they're doing wrong so the rest of us don't make their mistakes, but to come in and say "don't critisize when you haven't hit 95" is equally frustrating to hear since a lot of people, myself included (who maybe don't have the time), want to see more opinions and discussions to make the build better for everyone (including other people's experience of the leveling process from 85 - 95) and not just the people who have 60ex and time to snipe gg trade items. If this thread was just people level 95+ saying how great this build is once they hit 95 and invested 60ex, this thread would get boring really fast and no one would learn anything beyond what 5ex item is best in the slot. The build/guide is definitely great and informative and we appreciatethe work put into it - people just have to shift their expectations of how much time and currency a good vortex build costs and what they expect to get out of the build. Last edited by sweetandlow#7908 on May 25, 2021, 2:39:53 PM
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" I am very blunt and to the point I am just tired of people complaining/trolling when they don't even have a Occultist character or they aren't putting in the effort. Not following the guide by slapping in bad cluster setups, not keeping flasks uptime, bad weapons , bad jewels, weird trees and low levels, then trying to do content their gear and level can't do. This has always been a league starter build to get you to red maps fairly easy and if you want to stay at 90-95 and can't invest currency, time to get higher levels and effort then you will not be being doing all endgame content with ease and will be stuck in a league start build all league. You can hate on me all you want but I speak the truth when I see people with multiple builds that can't get past 93-95. It's your issue and your not willing to put in the effort. All of my good rare items are crafted my self within the month since league has been out. Anyone can make my rares I even posted guides for some of them on discord. This has nothing to do with sniping or even having tons of currency its all about effort and willing to learn and not blame build creators. 2-4 hours a day in a month can get you my level of gear. Last edited by donbrawler#1981 on May 25, 2021, 3:06:12 PM
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