[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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zire wrote:

How much does a circle of guilt with the increased damage add? I feel like boss Dps is low kind of, im trying to squeeze all the extra damage in that i can, They are pretty pricy for one with resist, don't know if there is anywhere else to get the damage from though.

Hello. The rings certainly help with dps but they are not the most important in terms of increasing your dps.

In terms of DPS the level of your HOP gem and the number of sentinels are the biggest factor in increasing your dps.

When you can afford, get the following for a big jump in DPS

*level 21/20 Herald of Purity gem

*level 4 empower

*helmet enchant of +1 to sentinels

There are many other smaller items you can improve that will also add but these three above will give you the biggest increase in DPS.

When fighting hard bosses, swap out your melee splash for a multistrike. This gives the spiders a little more dps for single target

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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zire wrote:

How much does a circle of guilt with the increased damage add? I feel like boss Dps is low kind of, im trying to squeeze all the extra damage in that i can, They are pretty pricy for one with resist, don't know if there is anywhere else to get the damage from though.

Hello. The rings certainly help with dps but they are not the most important in terms of increasing your dps.

In terms of DPS the level of your HOP gem and the number of sentinels are the biggest factor in increasing your dps.

When you can afford, get the following for a big jump in DPS

*level 21/20 Herald of Purity gem

*level 4 empower

*helmet enchant of +1 to sentinels

There are many other smaller items you can improve that will also add but these three above will give you the biggest increase in DPS.

When fighting hard bosses, swap out your melee splash for a multistrike. This gives the spiders a little more dps for single target

Alright I have a herald of purity that is level 19 hopefully it will go to 21 when i corrupt. I suppose I should have saved my ex that i spent on the ring on a lvl 4 empower, and I will start running lab I guess. Thanks for the quick reply.

Progress Update: https://pastebin.com/FgY37Siz made it to 7.5 mil shaper dps

A few things that boosted my dps

I switched out the Rainbowstrides and put on a Bubonic trail, I put damage jewels with either mana or ES. The all res jewels go into my belt to cover resists.



took out Maim and Culling strike. I can summon my minions consistently without them.



I favor poison over Imaple because of the stacking damage the poison has to offer.

looking for +3 chest, this will do for now


These pair of flasks give me 100% up time of both my Vaal skills (minus soul gain prevention)


I can easily get to 9+ mil shaper dps if I just had that damn amulet.
Here's a failure, I haven't given up.


I sacked a bit of ES from the Rainbow stride switch, but overall a huge boost in DPS.
Great build, the min maxing will continue.

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Balogna wrote:

Progress Update: https://pastebin.com/FgY37Siz made it to 7.5 mil shaper dps

A few things that boosted my dps

I switched out the Rainbowstrides and put on a Bubonic trail, I put damage jewels with either mana or ES. The all res jewels go into my belt to cover resists.

How do you maintain 75% spellblock without the rainbowstrides?

I think i'm getting to some walls on the min-max for the build. What could be some of the next steps outside of a right colored chest?

PoB: https://pastebin.com/YpYiw76P

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ThRz wrote:

I think i'm getting to some walls on the min-max for the build. What could be some of the next steps outside of a right colored chest?

PoB: https://pastebin.com/8fkQztw6

It is difficult to give advice because your POB is a bit messed up. Your mana is way off and it looks like you have multiple HOP gem setups active (which may be the cause of the mana issues). The tree was also missing a point (I think on the cluster jewel but I can't be sure).

If you can post a clean POB, I can give better advice.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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ThRz wrote:

I think i'm getting to some walls on the min-max for the build. What could be some of the next steps outside of a right colored chest?

PoB: https://pastebin.com/8fkQztw6

It is difficult to give advice because your POB is a bit messed up. Your mana is way off and it looks like you have multiple HOP gem setups active (which may be the cause of the mana issues). The tree was also missing a point (I think on the cluster jewel but I can't be sure).

If you can post a clean POB, I can give better advice.

I think i solved the problems

https://pastebin.com/vvr4ipRc

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ThRz wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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ThRz wrote:

I think i'm getting to some walls on the min-max for the build. What could be some of the next steps outside of a right colored chest?

PoB: https://pastebin.com/8fkQztw6

It is difficult to give advice because your POB is a bit messed up. Your mana is way off and it looks like you have multiple HOP gem setups active (which may be the cause of the mana issues). The tree was also missing a point (I think on the cluster jewel but I can't be sure).

If you can post a clean POB, I can give better advice.

I think i solved the problems

https://pastebin.com/vvr4ipRc

Hmm, the tree still looks wrong to me. I think you are missing a skill point on a cluster jewel. No big deal though as the rest looks correct.

Anyways, things look good overall in your build. You will get a little boost in DPS if you take Righteous Army instead of Redemption.

Your next two skill points should got to Arcane Focus for a nice ES Boost.

For small min maxing, you can start to look at some of the alternate quality gems as described in the build guide.

I think you can level clarity up to help reduce your mana pool.

And as you mentioned keep your eyes out for a better colored armor (only if you can get it corrupted).

Not a big fan of removing maim (DPS from the increased phys damage taken) and culling strike (10% more damage from the cull on big bosses.) I doubt the DPS from the abyssal gems outperforms those DPS gains.

This build is great, this is the first time I have seen Sirus (Although I failed miserably). Everything was more or less a walk in the park (Uber Lab was a nightmare) up until red. I don’t have any experience in mid-end game as I rarely made it pass T10 maps.

My question is, is this build capable of finishing atlas without much min maxing? Because now I am having trouble milking more level to get points for the 2 small cluster (6 points) and the jewel slot for watcher eye and minion jewel. I died to really random one shots/degens out of nowhere. Alch ing T14 conqueror map was a Nono. Mapping in red usually is Yesyesyesno…

I am currently at sub 5k ES and 4xk armor and kind of lost. Nothing expensive is really dropping and Chaos recipe has becomes regal recipe. So I am not really making much currency and not progressing.