[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Dypr4x wrote:

@Andy: What's the reason you use "Faster Attacks" over "Multistrike"?

I'm currently in the position to buy a Skin of the loyal (3r, 2b, 1g + Duration Gems implicit) for 10ex but I could save a big chunk of Exalteds when I go for (2r, 2b, 2g + Duration gems implicit).

Further I saw in Trade that you're selling a Skin of the loyal (3r, 2b, 1g + Duration Gems implicit) for 10ex. Would it be possible to sometime meet up for the deal? :-) But it depends on the answer on top and I hope you don't want me to rip off and give a false answer. :D

hello!!!

Please ping me if you are online and I will hook you up with a better deal.

*However, let me answer your first question before you bother buying since it may effect you.

1) Multistrike over Faster Attacks provides much more DPS
2) Multistrike over Faster Attacks however is much more mana hungry which makes squeezing's everything in a little trickier.

*I bought the 2r-2b-2g with duration corruption because I could afford it at the time

* Later I purchased (blindly) the 3r-2b-1g with duration corruption because I wanted a DPS upgrade (using Multistrike instead of Faster Attacks). But when I tried to put it on with Multistrike, I realize my mana was all screwed up and it was going to ripple through my entire build, so I put it back up for sale and stuck with the 2r-2b-2g version.

* So my recommendation is to simply load your own build into POB and remove the faster attacks support and replace it with Multistrike to make sure you can support the mana.

* If you can, I can hook you up with the 3r-2b-1g I have for sale for much cheaper.

let me know how you want to proceed

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Fenris1970 wrote:

A quick (and somewhat off topic) question:
Is anyone can tell me what is the actual range for "Minions from Supported Skills deal (20-30)% more Damage to Enemies that are Near you" on Meat Shield Support?

This is not a very well defined item by GGG.

In doing some research today, the people recommended thinking of it as the size of a typical aura.

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ImTerryFox wrote:

Hey guys!

So currently mid/maxing the build.

Any advice on what to go first, was gonna go for Chest then Amulet.
Also need to level up a bit.

https://pastebin.com/0PGjw8SE

Any advice are welcome, I still got around 50ex available.
Also, I need the good color for the Chest, but not sure how to get it? Should I run Alva?

Ty!

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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ImTerryFox wrote:

Hey guys!

So currently mid/maxing the build.

Any advice on what to go first, was gonna go for Chest then Amulet.
Also need to level up a bit.

https://pastebin.com/0PGjw8SE

Any advice are welcome, I still got around 50ex available.
Also, I need the good color for the Chest, but not sure how to get it? Should I run Alva?

Ty!

Hi Terry,

* I don't believe the chest ever drops in Alva (unless you are talking about using the temple to double corrupt an existing chest you already have). The chest drops in breaches (Chayula I believe). You can also farm divination cards for a double corrupted chest in breaches. If you already have the chest, then yes, you can try to use Alva to double corrupt it yourself.

* I think going chest first makes sense. The amulet you are wearing is already very good (just needs the +1 to phy to make it perfect). Getting the double corrupted chest will give you more DPS than making the amulet perfect though. Perfecting the amulet will give HOP 1 more level, but getting the second corruption will give it 2 more levels. Both will be really hard to find though especially this late in the league.

* I am having a difficult time with your pob unfortunately. When I turn on Discipline (you did not have this set), your mana pool goes negative. Can you double check your POB link and make sure all the auras you are using are active and that your mana matches your in game set up, something looks off to me. Either you are not using all the auras in your setup or there is a reservation missing some where on the tree. But I can't quickly spot the problem.

* While waiting to find the two hard to acquire items in the chest and in the amulet, you can start to min max many of your other items. You can get a much better rolled shield and then put 30% quality on it for example. You can get a better rolled Healthy Mind jewel, with maybe a useful corruption on it like "Minions deal 4% increased damage" as another example. Things like that.

* In general, look at each and every item you have acquired and see if you can get one better, even if it is just small increases, you will be surprised at how much every thing adds up, especially when you put 30% quality on your gear.

* You can squeeze more single target damage out if you replace one of the defensive flasks with a bottled faith. This is expensive though (~20 ex) so I would only do this if you don't see any path to the amulet and/or chest


Fantastic build!!! Congrats on the incredible work. I can see you are following Ellarizz's version which IMO is the best this league (and maybe the best ever for this build).

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ImTerryFox wrote:

https://pastebin.com/ngJhpDfx
Fixed it!

My reservation node wasnt checked for Discipline

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SSJ_Pants wrote:

Are there much more meaningful upgrades I can put towards this char? Any possible way to reach 10 mil sdps?

https://pastebin.com/kidwzQc8

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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SSJ_Pants wrote:

Are there much more meaningful upgrades I can put towards this char? Any possible way to reach 10 mil sdps?

https://pastebin.com/kidwzQc8

Here are some upgrades to look for:

1) Bottled Faith adds both DPS and protection against DOT

2) Getting your same Amulet, but with an aura reservation savings which gives the build more flexibility and DPS (see Ellarizz's masterpiece for the best example I have seen) https://pastebin.com/V9wLyYSW

3) Get a double corrupted armor with +1 to all socketed gems and +2 to duration gems

4) Get an Empower level 4

I do not think it is possible to get to 10m dps with the nerfs. From what I have seen of the top builds, you are looking at between 8m and 9m with GG gear every where.