[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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MsOtherName wrote:

Hey could someone spend 5mins and help me understand what i am doing wrong?

https://pastebin.com/rFpRxxur

I have several problems. I die to a lot of stuff. With buffs i am only at 6.1k ES right now. I barely deal any dmg. My cyclone stops pretty much all the time i am not sure why.

Distant memory boss for example just 1 hits me.

hello. I took a peak your your POB and I have some comments.

1) Your tree is a bit inefficient because you have to spend so many points going to Discord Artisan. You have two choices

a) keep that pathing and get the +1 to Sentinels on the helmet enchant (large DPS boost)
b) remove all those points and get the Herald of Purity reservation helmet enchantment. (all those points can be channeled into defense like ES)

If you decide to go with b), here is a tree you can use as a guide that is more efficient
https://pastebin.com/hEQYjgTD

2) The build does not require two writhing jars. You can safely replace one with a defensive flask of your choice

3) I can't understand why your cyclone is stopping. You don't have a mana issue. Does it stop when you are spinning in your hide out or only when you are fighting? You might be getting stunned if its during fighting but you should be block 3/4 of those any way... I need a little more information to give advice on this one

4) Your defenses look ok to me although you are under capped on cold. When you get a chance, make sure you get that cold to 81. Your next point should be in Influence and that will help your over all defenses. You have an open jewel socket that you want to put a Watcher's Eye in. Look for the stat "Gain 10% of maximum mana as maximum ES while effected by Clarity" This will give you a nice chunk of ES.

5) If you get an Anomalous Impale Support you can increase your DPS because you won't need the Rotten Claws any more in the large cluster and it can then be replaced with something like Renewel or Feasting Fiends for more DPS

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eldest-bike4 wrote:

I am 65 leveling with dom blow + hop + relic+ carion golem and its the easiest lvling i ever done , wow !!

I am gathering the gear to transition but is hard prices are insane on playstation

I am really liking templar , is my first time

Andy , what is the pob i go for this league ? I am kinda confused

Respect ✊

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Jack0o wrote:

I've been wondering lately... Why don't we use Herald of Agony instead of HoP? HoA deals poison damage. Wouldn't it synergize better with spiders and some poison buffs we might have?

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Jack0o wrote:

I've been wondering lately... Why don't we use Herald of Agony instead of HoP? HoA deals poison damage. Wouldn't it synergize better with spiders and some poison buffs we might have?

I think you definitely could. There are some differences to this build obviously but the core idea is the same.

If you are interested in a HOA variation, this build linked below is very well maintained by the build owner and he answers lots of questions:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705

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Jack0o wrote:

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

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Jack0o wrote:

I've been wondering lately... Why don't we use Herald of Agony instead of HoP? HoA deals poison damage. Wouldn't it synergize better with spiders and some poison buffs we might have?

I think you definitely could. There are some differences to this build obviously but the core idea is the same.

If you are interested in a HOA variation, this build linked below is very well maintained by the build owner and he answers lots of questions:

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3019705

Yes, I know the build/topic. Unfortunately it is expensive. Every gear piece with proper stats costs from few to many EX... I'm considering some cheap tunning to merge some parts of both builds without huge budget ;)

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Wraeclaster wrote:

So I was just testing if I could run my Skin and 6L HoP, but I still need the cold res from my Regalia.

It looks like to run the Skin and 6L, I'll need to level first to get the skill points to use my final cluster jewel (small passives give +5% cold) AND get a circle of guilt with both lightning and cold res implicits.

I can't see another way to cap my resistances unless I drop a unique somewhere. Anything you'd recommend dropping to use the skin and the 6L HoP, or would it best to use the build with the Regalia until I have both the skill points for that final cluster jewel and I can buy that double res circle of guilt?

With Skin - https://pastebin.com/Bng1LW8k

With Regalia - https://pastebin.com/dVdMCAb5

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xmadruguinha wrote:

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Wraeclaster wrote:

So I was just testing if I could run my Skin and 6L HoP, but I still need the cold res from my Regalia.

It looks like to run the Skin and 6L, I'll need to level first to get the skill points to use my final cluster jewel (small passives give +5% cold) AND get a circle of guilt with both lightning and cold res implicits.

I can't see another way to cap my resistances unless I drop a unique somewhere. Anything you'd recommend dropping to use the skin and the 6L HoP, or would it best to use the build with the Regalia until I have both the skill points for that final cluster jewel and I can buy that double res circle of guilt?

With Skin - https://pastebin.com/Bng1LW8k

With Regalia - https://pastebin.com/dVdMCAb5

I'm also having a hard time capping res, in POB they're capped through Endurance charges, which we kinda don't have 100% uptime, if you figure out a workaround please share with us