[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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Szktel wrote:

I do have a quick question, I'm closing to being able to afford an awakened multistrike soon. Should I be getting a +2 skill gem chest or an awakened multistrike first?



I tried to download your character into POB to check for you but your account is private.

If you want, you can answer this yourself as it is entirely a DPS question.

Load your build into POB and then check the DPS with the +2 chest and then check with Awakened Multistrike and compare.

I believe Awakened Multistrike will provide you more DPS over all in POB but double check your own build to be sure.
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dombro12 wrote:
Hello there
First Thx for good solid build, have fun playing this :D

This is my PoB
https://pastebin.com/SHX0ecbS

Any tips wil be nice
Thx


I will be happy to look at it but I think you need to create a new POB link.

That link meshes two completely different builds together, this build and what looks like a Slam Melee build. I think you may have imported this build into an existing POB setup.

Start from a clean POB and then import just this builds character and repost the POB and when you do I will take a look and give some suggestions.
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ImTerryFox wrote:
Ok now, I'm max res and got all my auras.

What's next you guys think?

Other than Awakened multi which cost too much atm

https://pastebin.com/cWRUDxSn



The POB you linked has negative mana reserved. So I can't really comment on that part because I can't see what is causing it. There looks to be a ton of disabled skills. Also this POB includes Awakened Multistrike which you indicated above you did not have so I am unsure if this is the right POB you wanted us to look at.


In case it is correct, here are some general comments:

*Your cold res is not capped. You can get to 81% cold in this build thanks to shield and tree.

*Your ES is a little low for your level. You may want to respec the very beginning of your tree. That long run through the es/armor nodes is weak. Play around in POB but you may do much better taking the short path out through the strength nodes and use the points you saved to get arcane focus.

*Look for an enchanted belt that gives more damage to maimed monsters. Here is a link. https://www.pathofexile.com/trade/search/Ultimatum/8l0g9GviV

* There may be a good reason but I just noticed you have a mana flask. You should not have any mana issues in this build. If that is just left over from a time you did need, replace it with something that will help your build.

* Add attribute quality to your amulet. It is cheap and gives a nice little bit of ES

* if you run the lab, look to get the life regen enchant on your boots. It is a nice help against DOT.


Ok, sorry there was a bug with POB.
The mana potion was for running a no regen map.

https://pastebin.com/GhbRuD5K
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Ava_tf wrote:


I decided against Flesh and stone and used a second empower on discipline and determination instead to max my reserved mana and give those a boost, we already have sources of maim from other places right?


In your setup you only have Empower on Determination, not Discipline.

If you want to dump Flesh and Stone, make sure you maximize this Empower by using it on both Determination and Discipline, IMO.

Cyclone does apply maim as you indicated but Flesh and Stone does it better since the Flesh and Stone AOE is significantly bigger than Cyclones in this build.
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Damo1984 wrote:
https://pastebin.com/xzBwcsxJ

If any1 would be kind enough to take a peek, feel like my damage is low even with 5 sentinels, es is 5.5k atm but will obviously go higher with more levele.

Have a bleed bow glad i spent considerably less on and have far more damage.


bump
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ImTerryFox wrote:


Ok, sorry there was a bug with POB.
The mana potion was for running a no regen map.

https://pastebin.com/GhbRuD5K


ok that looks better :)

My comments remain the same as before but I have one more to consider.

I think you are missing some extra defense with your flask setup. I have never needed a second Writhing Jar when playing and I am doing very late end game stuff.

I also have never had a need for the Soul Ripper flask.

If you want to consider, you can add in two more defensive flasks of your choice to make you much more tanky.

YMMV so please experiment at will. :)

Also, if you do intend to stay with Soul Ripper, I would consider getting a better rolled version. Remember that we are looking for the following (from the build guide):

Important:
The flask charges are a roll.
The roll you want is:
1) Higher than 50, and 2) If it's higher than 50, then the lowest possible. So the best roll is 50, but if you can't get 50, then 55 is better than 49.

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I tried to download your character into POB to check for you but your account is private.

If you want, you can answer this yourself as it is entirely a DPS question.

Load your build into POB and then check the DPS with the +2 chest and then check with Awakened Multistrike and compare.

I believe Awakened Multistrike will provide you more DPS over all in POB but double check your own build to be sure.




Here's the updated POB https://pastebin.com/Qc5KqSvN

I dont really know how to use the POB yet except the basics.
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Damo1984 wrote:
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Damo1984 wrote:
https://pastebin.com/xzBwcsxJ

If any1 would be kind enough to take a peek, feel like my damage is low even with 5 sentinels, es is 5.5k atm but will obviously go higher with more levele.

Have a bleed bow glad i spent considerably less on and have far more damage.


bump


you are playing the lower damage version of the build so you have to expect lower DPS.

Many of us are playing the Impale version which tops out at higher DPS when all set up.

But even if you want to stick with your version, you still have two MASSIVE ways to increase DPS.

Adding in Awakened Multistrike and adding in the corrupted chest (+1 to all socketed gems or +2 to socketed Duration gems).

Your ES is low because you have very little flat ES added in your build. We typically get our flat ES from jewels but your choice of belt and cluster setup is limiting you in that regard.
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ImTerryFox wrote:


Ok, sorry there was a bug with POB.
The mana potion was for running a no regen map.

https://pastebin.com/GhbRuD5K


ok that looks better :)

My comments remain the same as before but I have one more to consider.

I think you are missing some extra defense with your flask setup. I have never needed a second Writhing Jar when playing and I am doing very late end game stuff.

I also have never had a need for the Soul Ripper flask.

If you want to consider, you can add in two more defensive flasks of your choice to make you much more tanky.

YMMV so please experiment at will. :)

Also, if you do intend to stay with Soul Ripper, I would consider getting a better rolled version. Remember that we are looking for the following (from the build guide):

Important:
The flask charges are a roll.
The roll you want is:
1) Higher than 50, and 2) If it's higher than 50, then the lowest possible. So the best roll is 50, but if you can't get 50, then 55 is better than 49.



Not sure why POB isn't showing the right stats, but right now I have 6.8k ES and POB show 5k.

I'll try to tweak the tree a bit.
Oh ssoory
this is proper link
https://pastebin.com/sA0ZiK3F

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