[3.21] Vatinas' Spiders + HoP Guardian - CI, 70K armour, 1400 ES on block, millions of DPS

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JohnnyV76 wrote:

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braniels2 wrote:

Hello, signal prey dont works? i try to cast but nothing happen

What are you expecting to happen? It works fine for me. Just hover over the target you want the spiders/sentinels to focus on, click signal prey and they all run towards it until the selected target is dead.

At 20/20, anomalous predator support gives a total of 49% MORE spider damage to the prey and -4% all resistances on top. Since the spiders are using Viper Strike as skill it means they do a bit more chaos damage to the prey as well.
If you have anomalous predator support on your spiders and normal predator support on HoP just be sure to slot the anomalous one on your skill bar (it will show the -4% all resist)

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Lunethzz wrote:

That's because your suggestion makes you miss out on stalwart commander

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Zerber wrote:

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unciuchino wrote:

Has anyone done the Maven fight, the breachlord 4-way, etc with this build? How was it? Were the defences enough? Was the dps enough to not simply die from attrition?

Did 4-way elder guardians an hour ago. Died once to a smash i forgot to dodge while at half ES but everything else was just face tanking.

You really need a dousing and staunching flask with "gain a charge when you get hit by an enemy" without dousing it would be near impossible.

Edit: Did it at lvl 88 with only 6,5K ES. A4 Sirus was super easy too. Oh and both accidently with melee splash spiders because i forgot to switch to melee phys.

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Ravennnnnn wrote:

First try at the Maven with this build. Figured people might be interested how it handles that fight:

+ Feel very tanky, at no point did I feel threatened by her normal attacks or the map bosses she spawns in. Of course, one-shot mechanics still one-shot us, so don't stand in the rotating death-beam.
+ Map bosses might in fact be a benefit for us since they give us a lot more attacks/spells to block and heal from, just take out any that spawn DoT degen ground.


- DPS is low enough that she does the memory game multiple times per phase, which is...painful. Especially if you have a bad memory.

However, even with the 'low' DPS the individual phases don't feel like they take that long, you can see her life go down fairly quickly. It's been a while since I did him but I would probably say the fight is faster than Shaper and definitely very doable once you know the mechanics.

I recommend flamedash or similar instead of shield charge to get through the rotating death-beam. Also, her DoT blobs are not as bad as I feared (since I know DoT is our main weakness), they damage you slowly enough you have plenty of time to leave them again or run through them if you have to.

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Silkerin wrote:

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im curious how does that predator support work? why both Spiders and HOP need it? do you have to use both Signal Preys for both to benefit?

You need both spiders and HoP to have a predator gem linked, but then the same Predator "command" will work for all your minions. The damage boost is nice but it is also the best way to have your minions focus on a boss and not kill your worms when you need to resummon your spiders.

By the way if worms die on caustic ground from desecrate they still count as your kill, so you don't need to cyclone them if you flood the floor with desecrate first.

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unciuchino wrote:

I have my controversial personal opinion on Sirus, which is that the challenge of that fight is 99% related to the difficulty to actually see where tf he is teleporting around to due to the pretty bad visual/colour design, so I won't comment further on that fight, things won't change based on the build.

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unciuchino wrote:

Nice, have you by chance done also the 4 breachlord fight, 4 synthesis fight and the uber-atziri-shaper-cortex ones?

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Ravennnnnn wrote:

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unciuchino wrote:

Nice, have you by chance done also the 4 breachlord fight, 4 synthesis fight and the uber-atziri-shaper-cortex ones?

I've done breachlords twice, haven't gotten the maps for synthesis or the feared one.

Breachlords do feel pretty tough, first time I had some pretty stupid mods on the (rare) invitation and failed it. Second time it was fairly easy, though it took a while to wear them down. That was a few gear/gem upgrades ago, I've gotten some damage upgrades since then.

Keeping in mind I still have room to grow and am not the best at dodging mechanics, the build can definitely do breachlords.