[3.5 Viable but Discontinued] UNDENIABLE-JUGG | FARM ALL CONTENT - incl. Uber-Elder

"

moparcon wrote:

Alright so I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong but I couldn't even kill a t12 boss without struggling.

Is there something terribly wrong I'm missing? Aside from a couple jewels and xoph's blood I've got the other gear.

"

GornoDD wrote:

"

luyitian wrote:

Hi great build and I am leveling a char using this build. I want to ask how do you think about endurance charge on this build, I saw some MS build add endurance charge related point and ascendency and they argue it is a better way for dmg reduction compared with armor. Do you think it is worth adding some endurance charge thing on this build? @GornoDD

Yes its by far the better way of phys damage mitigation. However I think 4 charges is enough when paired with ~15-20k armor. With around 7-8k life you can survive the hardest hitting physical abilites in the game (e.g. Shaper Slam) with around 50% life. The passive tree is very tightly constructed and losing life for endurance charges is not a very good idea, cause every charge pretty much mean dropping 10% increased life (two nodes). Dropping damage is also not a good idea, cause the damage of the build while still good enough is still pretty necessary to acutally take down something like uber elder.

Alot of builds have a tendency of overdoing certain types of mitigation. Also the really dangerous stuff in the game is mainly elemental based. If there was a reasonable way of further mitigate more elemental damage I would have incorporated it in to the build. Right now Loreweave is the easiest way of doing that.

Some people who play this build in HC are using Belly of the Beast instead of Loreweave and running Uber Elder with a Support that provides Purities.

The Unyielding Ascendency is imho one of the worst in the game. The increased damage is very small like 30% increased damage at 6 charges wich is like a stat on a ring, amulet or ring. The Area of effect is entirely useless, cause the Threshold jewels alone cap out our maximum AoE almost alone (rest comes from InCAoe Jewel we use for clearing). And getting endurance charges when stunning will never happen cause with the small individual damage of each ball we will never stun anything outside of some white skeletons in t5 maps.

Also every other ascendency we already use is super-OP. dropping any of those would be madness.

"

luyitian wrote:

"

GornoDD wrote:

"

luyitian wrote:

Hi great build and I am leveling a char using this build. I want to ask how do you think about endurance charge on this build, I saw some MS build add endurance charge related point and ascendency and they argue it is a better way for dmg reduction compared with armor. Do you think it is worth adding some endurance charge thing on this build? @GornoDD

Yes its by far the better way of phys damage mitigation. However I think 4 charges is enough when paired with ~15-20k armor. With around 7-8k life you can survive the hardest hitting physical abilites in the game (e.g. Shaper Slam) with around 50% life. The passive tree is very tightly constructed and losing life for endurance charges is not a very good idea, cause every charge pretty much mean dropping 10% increased life (two nodes). Dropping damage is also not a good idea, cause the damage of the build while still good enough is still pretty necessary to acutally take down something like uber elder.

Alot of builds have a tendency of overdoing certain types of mitigation. Also the really dangerous stuff in the game is mainly elemental based. If there was a reasonable way of further mitigate more elemental damage I would have incorporated it in to the build. Right now Loreweave is the easiest way of doing that.

Some people who play this build in HC are using Belly of the Beast instead of Loreweave and running Uber Elder with a Support that provides Purities.

The Unyielding Ascendency is imho one of the worst in the game. The increased damage is very small like 30% increased damage at 6 charges wich is like a stat on a ring, amulet or ring. The Area of effect is entirely useless, cause the Threshold jewels alone cap out our maximum AoE almost alone (rest comes from InCAoe Jewel we use for clearing). And getting endurance charges when stunning will never happen cause with the small individual damage of each ball we will never stun anything outside of some white skeletons in t5 maps.

Also every other ascendency we already use is super-OP. dropping any of those would be madness.

"If there was a reasonable way of further mitigate more elemental damage I would have incorporated it into the build."

actually, I found one:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Nebuloch

and tried, it is really awesome, although the debuff is a bit annoying but acceptable with Loreweave + unrelenting + wise oak flask. I dont have wise oak yet but still runnable.

the point is the weapon is super cheap for getting "Physical Attack Damage as Extra Fire Damage". The watcher's eye is a bit expensive to starter.



BTW, a Ancestral Call Trick would be having % knockback in you jewel, so the mob will be pushed back to a good position to max the damage for ancestral call. they are also cheap.

"

m0onknight wrote:

Hey! Currently leveling a dude to play this build. Quite excited to get to end game! Does anyone have or can point me in the direction of the gear required for the different tiers of endgame content? I'd really appreciate this! Thank you.

"

"

yissus wrote:

"If there was a reasonable way of further mitigate more elemental damage I would have incorporated it into the build."

actually, I found one:
https://pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Nebuloch

and tried, it is really awesome, although the debuff is a bit annoying but acceptable with Loreweave + unrelenting + wise oak flask. I dont have wise oak yet but still runnable.

the point is the weapon is super cheap for getting "Physical Attack Damage as Extra Fire Damage". The watcher's eye is a bit expensive to starter.



BTW, a Ancestral Call Trick would be having % knockback in you jewel, so the mob will be pushed back to a good position to max the damage for ancestral call. they are also cheap.

What do people or GornoDD think about this change?...It seems more defensive and with more damage at first time

"

Kryptolog wrote:

"

moparcon wrote:

Alright so I'm assuming I'm doing something wrong but I couldn't even kill a t12 boss without struggling.

Is there something terribly wrong I'm missing? Aside from a couple jewels and xoph's blood I've got the other gear.

- no +3 molten strike projectiles (crucial)
- not corrupted weapon
- no dps on rings
- gloves with 1 abyssal socket and jewel with + xx axe
- BAD GEM SETUPS in half of items
- BAD gem lvls
- missing 3-4 gems
- no weapon swap gems

Read the guide...