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gbiota1 wrote:
I am better off than if I had played without its guidance, but I have not killed shaper which was my principle goal, despite following this guide and its adjustments as well as was possible. For anyone looking here for what to do, its fun, but you may not achieve what the creator of this build did. I have 6 maze of the minotaur maps, but nothing else to get me to shaper.
It's shame if you not kill shaper a single time with this build with this time and currency investment.
Sad news for you - that's not about build issue,that's about your personal playstyle issue.
99% ppl in this thread who followed this guide,even those who started playing PoE recently did shaper like a cakewalk with this build.
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gbiota1 wrote:
Probably 5-6 times a day, which means leveling is restricted to running maps tier 12 and under. The monsters from any abyss at tier 12 or higher can 1 shot you, have 200 exalts in items.
200ex gear and can't run 12+ maps what?:D
Don't be so hilarious.
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Posted bygbiota1#6175on Feb 17, 2018, 5:42:54 AM
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gbiota1 wrote:
I don't suspect most of the people who would find this post most useful will see it. I hadn't played in 3 years until the start of this league. I chose to follow this guide. I played aggressively, 10 or more hours a day most days of the week. Leveling after 92 was very slow, I am 94 right now. I die A LOT. I have 6000 hp, 100+% resists, 36% evasion, and the other defensive stats that come with this build. I took some nodes for bonus life leech rate because as someone who didn't know what they were doing at first it seemed that was a principle defensive mechanism, it still does.
Did I say I die a lot? This build kills me a lot. Don't get me wrong, the offensive ability is great, and the leech can return your life to max in less than a second (everything important in this game happens in much less than 1 second), but I get single shot often. I could make the next 100 sentences of this post a repetition of the word often. It's important that if you are reading this that you take the word 'often' literally. Probably 5-6 times a day, which means leveling is restricted to running maps tier 12 and under. The monsters from any abyss at tier 12 or higher can 1 shot you, and they will, often. 1 shot, absolutely, dead without immortal call doing a thing. Full life to nothing, every time. This game doesn't provide you with a combat log or any clue at all about what is killing you or what direction to move in to prevent it. That's tangential.
I have about 2000 chaos, 25 exalts, 600 alchs, 250 regals, 77 58 38 sextants, I've used probably 40 divines, 10000 alterations, and have 200 exalts in items.
I think this outcome should be taken as representative. I am better off than if I had played without its guidance, but I have not killed shaper which was my principle goal, despite following this guide and its adjustments as well as was possible. For anyone looking here for what to do, its fun, but you may not achieve what the creator of this build did. I have 6 maze of the minotaur maps, but nothing else to get me to shaper. If I could do things over again, I think I would go reave. I'm playing my ass off trying to get to shaper before the league ends, but that will probably go as well as my last portal being closed with uber atziri at 75%.
Overall grade: 7/10
you either troll and ill give you 7/10 for typing that much or you just one of those people that buy wrong Vessel of Vinktar and ask what to improve next, if you are second type then im supersized you made it past act 10.
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Posted bydexiji101#4779on Feb 17, 2018, 7:56:17 AM
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With four unique flasks and one removing bleed, how do you deal with freeze? Outside of high tier bosses, being frozen is pretty the only way I die right now.
This has been covered already, can't you read? Just kidding! So many pages for this popular build.
What I do (following Gorno's advice) is to release a couple volleys of molten justice and quickly clicking on the box. That will kill everything close to you as it spawns. I've come close to dying, but so far it has worked.
I've been doing that too, but what about actual mobs hitting you? I did a t16 with monsters with extra cold damage and crit chance, first pack killed me before I even got to them, was taken by surprise. Ended the map without bigger problems, but only because I was trying to hit the mobs before the hit me. I guess there's not much to be done here other than to trade one of the unique flasks for a remove freeze flask, and I definetely recommend that for hardcore.
English is not my first language.
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Posted bydigdigo#0656on Feb 17, 2018, 8:11:37 AM
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gbiota1 wrote:
I don't suspect most of the people who would find this post most useful will see it. I hadn't played in 3 years until the start of this league. I chose to follow this guide. I played aggressively, 10 or more hours a day most days of the week. Leveling after 92 was very slow, I am 94 right now. I die A LOT. I have 6000 hp, 100+% resists, 36% evasion, and the other defensive stats that come with this build. I took some nodes for bonus life leech rate because as someone who didn't know what they were doing at first it seemed that was a principle defensive mechanism, it still does.
Did I say I die a lot? This build kills me a lot. Don't get me wrong, the offensive ability is great, and the leech can return your life to max in less than a second (everything important in this game happens in much less than 1 second), but I get single shot often. I could make the next 100 sentences of this post a repetition of the word often. It's important that if you are reading this that you take the word 'often' literally. Probably 5-6 times a day, which means leveling is restricted to running maps tier 12 and under. The monsters from any abyss at tier 12 or higher can 1 shot you, and they will, often. 1 shot, absolutely, dead without immortal call doing a thing. Full life to nothing, every time. This game doesn't provide you with a combat log or any clue at all about what is killing you or what direction to move in to prevent it. That's tangential.
I have about 2000 chaos, 25 exalts, 600 alchs, 250 regals, 77 58 38 sextants, I've used probably 40 divines, 10000 alterations, and have 200 exalts in items.
I think this outcome should be taken as representative. I am better off than if I had played without its guidance, but I have not killed shaper which was my principle goal, despite following this guide and its adjustments as well as was possible. For anyone looking here for what to do, its fun, but you may not achieve what the creator of this build did. I have 6 maze of the minotaur maps, but nothing else to get me to shaper. If I could do things over again, I think I would go reave. I'm playing my ass off trying to get to shaper before the league ends, but that will probably go as well as my last portal being closed with uber atziri at 75%.
Overall grade: 7/10
This build is very strong - if you're dying often/can't kill certain bosses - it's not the fault of this build.
If you want help, post your gear (maybe something can be improved).
Otherwise, my two cents...
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You can't simply run any old map you alch - obviously elemental reflect is going to cause problems, but so too will massive +damage/crit/speed/projectiles/etc. mods - too many of these mods on a single map make them extremely risky to run - put such maps aside unless you don't mind the occasional death. Use common sense when running maps - you'll hardly ever die with this build if doing so.
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WRT Shaper
This build has more than enough DPS to be successful v. Shaper - that said, the Shaper fight isn't all about DPS. There's a bit of learning involved - namely, dealing with those cold orbs that follow you around - as well as being able to dodge his chaos/portal/slam ability, and staying calm in phase 3 when he spawns his clone and being able to identify and attack the correct mob.
Virtually any build you try will involve learning Shaper mechanics for success, so I recommend that you search you-tube for a suitable Shaper guide, and simply have a bit of patience while learning the fight.
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Your complaint about this build not being budget is, I think justified - however, this build guide seems to have originated many leagues ago as a Blade Flurry guide - since that time, many things have changed.
IMO - this build isn't "budget" - helm enchant is massively expensive - top-of-the-line claws are not cheap. Good rings will cost 1ex+. That said, if you're very skilled you can kill all content w/o all this top-line gear - nonetheless, players experiencing top-end content for the first time expecting to purchase OP's gear on a budget, will be disappointed.
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Posted byhankinsohl#1231on Feb 17, 2018, 8:29:08 AM
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FreshMeat93 wrote:
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gbiota1 wrote:
I am better off than if I had played without its guidance, but I have not killed shaper which was my principle goal, despite following this guide and its adjustments as well as was possible. For anyone looking here for what to do, its fun, but you may not achieve what the creator of this build did. I have 6 maze of the minotaur maps, but nothing else to get me to shaper.
It's shame if you not kill shaper a single time with this build with this time and currency investment.
Sad news for you - that's not about build issue,that's about your personal playstyle issue.
99% ppl in this thread who followed this guide,even those who started playing PoE recently did shaper like a cakewalk with this build.
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Probably 5-6 times a day, which means leveling is restricted to running maps tier 12 and under. The monsters from any abyss at tier 12 or higher can 1 shot you, have 200 exalts in items.
200ex gear and can't run 12+ maps what?:D
Don't be so hilarious.
200 ex`s? i dont see 200 on ur gear bro ( 200 is not enouth if u want farm shaper for example
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Posted byjustjuststop#6409on Feb 17, 2018, 11:57:42 AM
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This is a nice build!
I just killed my first Shaper ever with it, on first try using 5/6 portals.
My gear is worth about 20ex total, I think.
I had luck to self find my Lyco. I use Devotos with +3 to Molten Strike projectiles because it was 5 ex only and because I dont have 15-20ex for a Starkonja with this enchant.
My claw was not that expensive as it looks (it was 3ex I think) because I had luck to slam fire damage on it.
I use 8 Abyss jewels. Every of them has 50-99 flat damage. Only a few of them have any life, thats why I am at 6088 life only with a 40% Belly and all life nodes in the scion wheel. I am shure it is possible to get more life by using more jewels with life.
I could get at least 10% more damage by replacing my terrible diamond ring with a 3-4ex opal ring but I never did because league will end soon anyway :-)
I never tried to level beyond 91 because I often play drunk, because I run guardians here and there to get some variety, and because I run shaped vault even with rippy mods like "minus max player res" paired with "enemies deal extra elemental damage".
I learned a lot by playing this build. Biggest suprise for me was how good Acrobatics and Phase Acrobatics are.
Thank you GornoDD for this nice build :-)
P.S.: I think I will not play this build next league because I see no way to afford that sweet flat damage Abyss jewels because I am just a casual.
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Posted byboindd#3509on Feb 17, 2018, 1:32:27 PM
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thank you soooo much for this built, i had so much fun with it this season :) will play it again in bestiary!
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rly nice build!
ez vaal temple added life
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtxaptzVpK8
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Posted byUltraDen666#7271on Feb 18, 2018, 7:49:35 AM
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MaddinMakellos wrote:
thank you soooo much for this built, i had so much fun with it this season :) will play it again in bestiary!
Im really happy so many people enjoy the build. Ofc I will update the guide as soon as the 3.2 changes become clearer.
Also if nothing big happens to Inquisitor I will release another build guide for Inquis that is as strong as this build if not a little stronger.
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Posted byGornoDD#3738on Feb 18, 2018, 1:50:36 PM
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