0.5.0b Hotfix 12

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sirgog#5608 wrote:

Thank you for FINALLY having the guts to do mid-league emergency nerfs.

Without this fix, this could have been another 020, where there's one 'approved build' so much better than everything else that there's no build diversity at all.

Reserving judgement on whether 75% is the right number or not, but immortal builds have to go, otherwise every bot cheater can multibox 20 of them.

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Tinindil#4475 wrote:

I rarely post feedback like this, but this change has genuinely left me questioning the direction GGG is taking with POE2.

The decision to cap chance to not consume charges at 75% feels incredibly unfair to players who invested heavily into making Flicker Strike work. This wasn't a free interaction, an early-game power spike, or some low-effort exploit. Reaching 100% required significant planning, optimisation, and a substantial currency investment.

What makes this particularly frustrating is that Flicker Strike players have seen this pattern repeatedly. Every time the skill becomes enjoyable and players find ways to overcome its inherent limitations, another nerf arrives. At some point it becomes difficult not to conclude that GGG simply does not want Flicker Strike to exist as a strong endgame build.

The explanation that players were becoming "effectively immune to damage" is also difficult to accept. Flicker Strike players are not immune to damage. We still die. We still need defenses, recovery, mitigation, and careful gearing. The skill's identity has always revolved around rapid movement and positioning. Being difficult for some enemies to track is not the same thing as being immune.

What is most disappointing is that this change targets one of the few truly aspirational endgame goals remaining for Flicker Strike players. POE has always been about investing time and currency into pushing a build beyond its normal limits. That chase is what keeps many players engaged.

Instead, players who spent hundreds of Divines pursuing a difficult endgame setup have effectively been told that the investment was a mistake because the mechanic has now been capped.

Balance changes are necessary. Bug fixes are necessary. But there should be a distinction between fixing something that is genuinely broken and removing a high-investment interaction that players spent weeks building towards.

As someone who moved completely from POE1 to POE2 and has supported the game throughout Early Access, this change has done more to damage my enthusiasm for the league than anything else so far. It feels like another example of build diversity being reduced rather than expanded.

Please reconsider this change, or at the very least reconsider the ongoing approach to Flicker Strike. Many of us are not asking for the skill to dominate the game. We are simply asking for a difficult, expensive, endgame build to be allowed to exist.

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Boltonsquads#3528 wrote:

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Tinindil#4475 wrote:

I rarely post feedback like this, but this change has genuinely left me questioning the direction GGG is taking with POE2.

The decision to cap chance to not consume charges at 75% feels incredibly unfair to players who invested heavily into making Flicker Strike work. This wasn't a free interaction, an early-game power spike, or some low-effort exploit. Reaching 100% required significant planning, optimisation, and a substantial currency investment.

What makes this particularly frustrating is that Flicker Strike players have seen this pattern repeatedly. Every time the skill becomes enjoyable and players find ways to overcome its inherent limitations, another nerf arrives. At some point it becomes difficult not to conclude that GGG simply does not want Flicker Strike to exist as a strong endgame build.

The explanation that players were becoming "effectively immune to damage" is also difficult to accept. Flicker Strike players are not immune to damage. We still die. We still need defenses, recovery, mitigation, and careful gearing. The skill's identity has always revolved around rapid movement and positioning. Being difficult for some enemies to track is not the same thing as being immune.

What is most disappointing is that this change targets one of the few truly aspirational endgame goals remaining for Flicker Strike players. POE has always been about investing time and currency into pushing a build beyond its normal limits. That chase is what keeps many players engaged.

Instead, players who spent hundreds of Divines pursuing a difficult endgame setup have effectively been told that the investment was a mistake because the mechanic has now been capped.

Balance changes are necessary. Bug fixes are necessary. But there should be a distinction between fixing something that is genuinely broken and removing a high-investment interaction that players spent weeks building towards.

As someone who moved completely from POE1 to POE2 and has supported the game throughout Early Access, this change has done more to damage my enthusiasm for the league than anything else so far. It feels like another example of build diversity being reduced rather than expanded.

Please reconsider this change, or at the very least reconsider the ongoing approach to Flicker Strike. Many of us are not asking for the skill to dominate the game. We are simply asking for a difficult, expensive, endgame build to be allowed to exist.

Why would you assume that 100% damage immunity is intended, no build should be 100% immune to damage and GGG are correct to fix this now.

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Boltonsquads#3528 wrote:

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Tinindil#4475 wrote:

I rarely post feedback like this, but this change has genuinely left me questioning the direction GGG is taking with POE2.

The decision to cap chance to not consume charges at 75% feels incredibly unfair to players who invested heavily into making Flicker Strike work. This wasn't a free interaction, an early-game power spike, or some low-effort exploit. Reaching 100% required significant planning, optimisation, and a substantial currency investment.

What makes this particularly frustrating is that Flicker Strike players have seen this pattern repeatedly. Every time the skill becomes enjoyable and players find ways to overcome its inherent limitations, another nerf arrives. At some point it becomes difficult not to conclude that GGG simply does not want Flicker Strike to exist as a strong endgame build.

The explanation that players were becoming "effectively immune to damage" is also difficult to accept. Flicker Strike players are not immune to damage. We still die. We still need defenses, recovery, mitigation, and careful gearing. The skill's identity has always revolved around rapid movement and positioning. Being difficult for some enemies to track is not the same thing as being immune.

What is most disappointing is that this change targets one of the few truly aspirational endgame goals remaining for Flicker Strike players. POE has always been about investing time and currency into pushing a build beyond its normal limits. That chase is what keeps many players engaged.

Instead, players who spent hundreds of Divines pursuing a difficult endgame setup have effectively been told that the investment was a mistake because the mechanic has now been capped.

Balance changes are necessary. Bug fixes are necessary. But there should be a distinction between fixing something that is genuinely broken and removing a high-investment interaction that players spent weeks building towards.

As someone who moved completely from POE1 to POE2 and has supported the game throughout Early Access, this change has done more to damage my enthusiasm for the league than anything else so far. It feels like another example of build diversity being reduced rather than expanded.

Please reconsider this change, or at the very least reconsider the ongoing approach to Flicker Strike. Many of us are not asking for the skill to dominate the game. We are simply asking for a difficult, expensive, endgame build to be allowed to exist.

Why would you assume that 100% damage immunity is intended, no build should be 100% immune to damage and GGG are correct to fix this now.