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my understanding is that this clarification it sounds like
The totem is not a spell
therfor the totem is casting the spell
so Rathpith will be based on the totems life?
and archmage means it will be based on the totems mana which is 0?
Either way that means im playing Twister now
Yeah the clarification sounds about as clear as a puddle of mud to be fair.
They say it's not a spell so spell costs don't affect it but clearly archmage made spell totem much more expensive in 0.4. My guess is that they changed that in the background but we still aren't clear on what works or how.
Rathpith worked based on your life in 0.4 so it would be expected to work the same now but does it? How do we know, apparently things change but are the same but they are different... Like WTF GGG, make things clear in their wording about EXACTLY how they work.
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Posted byElhazzared#4582on May 27, 2026, 11:06:27 PM
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You could make totems baseline 0 cost and they would still have so many drawbacks that they will never be the best.
They should at least lower the mana costs by 40%. The cost doesn't seem to be made for spamming so many totems.
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Posted bydrallcom3#6603on May 27, 2026, 11:07:05 PM
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RIP TOTEM BUILD
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Posted byDassort#2407on May 27, 2026, 11:07:41 PM
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my understanding is that this clarification it sounds like
The totem is not a spell
therfor the totem is casting the spell
so Rathpith will be based on the totems life?
and archmage means it will be based on the totems mana which is 0?
Either way that means im playing Twister now
What the game says a totem is:
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Totems are allied constructs which use skills for you. Totems are not Minions and their skills benefit from your stats, though they have their own defensive stats and can be damaged or killed.
So your assumption is quite wrong to think that the archmage interaction would work out like based on that. It will work out fine but it (the totem itself not archmage) wont be completely free of cost. That is something to work around.
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Posted byMarth#0462on May 27, 2026, 11:07:52 PM
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It will work out fine but it (the totem itself not archmage) wont be completely free of cost. That is something to work around.
Mana recovery is awful in poe2 without being able to leech, get mana on kill or even spawn mana remnants. They made totems less clunky thanks to the no charges needed, but they are going to be meh to play. Even unchanged they were nowhere close to being S tier, especially when you've got Twisters/Snipe in the mix and that's just what we know about.
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Posted byLittleboots#2011on May 27, 2026, 11:12:19 PM
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That king of the mists nerf is so unnecessary and anti-fun. Were people getting divine orbs off the ritual or something?
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Posted byFishHeads#6747on May 27, 2026, 11:13:32 PM
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lol @ announcing things and then nerfing them before anyone even played them. do you guys believe me yet?
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Q: "Why put ridiculous items like Gravebind and Tangletongue and those gloves that inverted your slow curses into speed curses in the game?!? GGG is in a nefarious plot with streamers of some sort!"
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Q: "Why nerf those items later?!? That is bad for the game because XYZ"
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Not everyone just a lil sheep like you who need a streamer to play the game.
And btw when would you balance the game if not before league starts? What if they needed to nerf it in the middle of the league than i bet you would be fine, right..jiss
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Posted byTizeNO#2673on May 27, 2026, 11:18:35 PM
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I sometimes do poos in the shower
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Is this a move to make using Ancestral Bond still impossible for chaos (and attack) totem builds, which have nothing to do with Archmage, with Dark Effigy having the highest cost of them all? Or to have such builds use Spell Totem only for curses, while self-casting, as that might be the only economical tradeoff for hardly having other totems consistently in place, or at all, due to their cost? Time to make other or updated plans one day before launch I suppose...
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Posted byKiena_Jouki#6334on May 27, 2026, 11:45:39 PM
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Thank you for an AMAZING work GGG, no jokes. Your team is the reason i still believe in game industry and always hyped about new leagues. You did a insalnly good Mirage League recently, where i spend around 500h in both HC SSF and Softcore leagues.
This one also looks incredible good with a lot of changes to the game and new content. I like your experimental mind and ability to risk with questionable changes.
Please, stay sane and be same;)
For all the "haters":
1 Twisters require ~5 buttons to be overpowered (Slash + Arrows + Barrage + Mark + Twister) + 2 different weapon sets with different trees + high investment in Attack Speed.
Person who can go to t15 maps with this skill in 5h, 100% can do ~6h run with most other skills that in the game. It's a practice question, not a problem at all. Try grenades.
2 Part play nerf is probably targeting bots that stack a lot of extra damage for carry + IIR. Yes, it ruins experience for some other players, but we will have healthy economy because of that.
3 Crafting decent weapons with 5 clicks that can do 100% of the content is not healthy. Player power progression need to be smoother. Also, wait for runecrafting please.
4 Armor-based archetype might be buffed because of all new stuff we get, like Runic Ward, armour scaling, new uniques and tree changes (we have more good nodes already). Play it first.
5 Please, try to also focus on good changes. Don't be greedy in only negatives.
dude finally someone with brain coment here ty!
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Posted bydrac_oner#6032on May 27, 2026, 11:50:22 PM
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