Tired of patches that are destroying the fun of the game

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maxes789#7131 wrote:

Imagine 3K+ hours 3/4 voidstones almost all bosses completed accept Maven and Atziri and that makes me not aligible to speak about game balance even though my main focus was farming maps T16/T17 and experimenting with different builds.

Keep it up. One day you will get that 4th voidstone and progress to t17s. May take some time tho…

Well, you complain about the fun factor, but you've never pushed the limits of this game. Maybe you enjoy it in standard mode, but in leagues, it's normal for builds to get destroyed; that's even what allowed PoE to succeed.

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maxes789#7131 wrote:

Me too :D Imagine 3K+ hours 3/4 voidstones almost all bosses completed accept Maven and Atziri and that makes me not aligible to speak about game balance even though my main focus was farming maps T16/T17 and experimenting with different builds.

Because Standard League is no basis for balance. You only play Standard, so what clue would you have about temporary balance, economy or anything related not to perma league that is more relevant in temp leagues? The whole game is built around temp leagues. The perma league is definitely not what makes up the core game. GGG doesn't balance around Standard and its economy or legacy items.

You seem to be primarily a Minions player, so I'm not even sure what you are whining about. They've only gotten easier for quite some time now. Every single character on your profile right now is a meta Ascendancy.

The endgame meta strats that were nerfed this patch don't affect you, either. They have no influence on the already warped and broken Standard economy. So, aside from that, which part of the patch notes nuked your builds? My favorite build was nerfed and nerfed again several patches in a row and I whined about it, but I had reason to, yet I can't understand what you are even mad about?

What were you playing that is now destroyed and unfun? I don't see it.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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maxes789#7131 wrote:

Me too :D Imagine 3K+ hours 3/4 voidstones almost all bosses completed accept Maven and Atziri and that makes me not aligible to speak about game balance even though my main focus was farming maps T16/T17 and experimenting with different builds.

Because Standard League is no basis for balance. You only play Standard, so what clue would you have about temporary balance, economy or anything related not to perma league that is more relevant in temp leagues? The whole game is built around temp leagues. The perma league is definitely not what makes up the core game. GGG doesn't balance around Standard and its economy or legacy items.

You seem to be primarily a Minions player, so I'm not even sure what you are whining about. They've only gotten easier for quite some time now. Every single character on your profile right now is a meta Ascendancy.

The endgame meta strats that were nerfed this patch don't affect you, either. They have no influence on the already warped and broken Standard economy. So, aside from that, which part of the patch notes nuked your builds? My favorite build was nerfed and nerfed again several patches in a row and I whined about it, but I had reason to, yet I can't understand what you are even mad about?

What were you playing that is now destroyed and unfun? I don't see it.

So you just going to ignore how its been said that I have played leagues and just say stuff like I only play standard? Also a player is not allowed to delete characters? Those builds that you can see are those builds that somewhat survived all the patches and I wanted to make them better and min.max those builds. Hey at this point make anything about me and I will laugh as much as I can because this thing is more entertaining than watching TV :D

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maxes789#7131 wrote:

So you just going to ignore how its been said that I have played leagues and just say stuff like I only play standard? Also a player is not allowed to delete characters? Those builds that you can see are those builds that somewhat survived all the patches and I want to make them better and min.max those builds.

This thread has almost 10 pages now, I did not read every single one. I based my information on what I can see. I delete characters all the time, but fact is, you are not even in the league.

Since this thread is from recently and not several patches ago, I ask again: What is it that you played that GGG killed with this patch? If you can't give a straight answer, I'll just have to exit this discussion as I see no point in talking in circles.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

If you can't give a straight answer, I'll just have to exit this discussion as I see no point in talking in circles.

I tried talking in circles once. All it did was make the squares mad.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

The endgame meta strats that were nerfed this patch don't affect you, either. They have no influence on the already warped and broken Standard economy.

Well, even if they are standard players, they are still affected by the endgame changes because they have the same core game as temporary leagues, just without the league-specific content.

In this case, they are also playing the relatively weak state of the core game, since playing standard does not automatically bring back farming strategies or the original content difficulty. Even if during your two years of playing the game across a few leagues you have never touched standard, it still plays much the same as league play aside from the economy and temporary league content.

Even if standard is mostly dead, there are still players who play it from time to time when a league does not look fun enough but they still want to play Path of Exile, or people who simply do not want to bother with the constant resets. That does not change the fact that they are also experiencing the same core game as we do during a fresh league. You engage with the content you are interested in, which can be very high-reward even in standard, and with most strategies that involve high difficulty being gutted, it is fair to say that even standard players can voice their concerns about this.