Build variety my ass. Game has too many arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions.

passionate builder here. i dont understand why they dont throw in some new skills. got to quit the leage, nothing for me to do here :(
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MadSheo#0280 wrote:
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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

You're saying you're defaulting back to deadeye, more than implying that's the op meta right now, which someone else figuered out.

Look at the build forum. More than enough working builds.


I`d like to build my own. And my build wasnt going for something crazy or OP. Lore friendly even.






G'luck with that. I've seen a "few" people come here and blast their heart out "it's too hard".

Nobody said it was gonna be easy. Otherwise we all would do that.

Anyhoo, g'luck.
Last edited by Tohtori_Murha#4392 on Sep 14, 2025, 11:28:28 AM
its a bit sad how restrictive poe2 is, in the beginning we were coping that this is for balance reasons but we can clearly see that its not.
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MadSheo#0280 wrote:
Decidet to make a fun lore friendly build. Kinda off meta. Yeah, good luck with that. Game has so many restrictions that you will go insane before you make it work or rather realise in GGG head it wasnt meant to work ever.

I had an idea to make an Abyssal Lich that uses Kulemaks items. Because it fits with the league and the RPG elements. I wanted to use Apparition node on the ascendancy that copies spells and use His Winnoving Flame as my main skill. I would sacrifice very good wand+foci synergy but whatever, it sounds interesting and fun.

Here's how it went:

- His Winnowing Flame (HWF) can't ignite, and needs to consume ignite to summon it's toranadoes. Fair enough, lets get some fire spells.

- Lets do Flame Skulls that nobody uses with Cast on Minion Death to cast some fire spell and maybe add Fire Flower amulet so skulls die fast. Oh sorry, can't do that, Aparrition doesnt work with triggered spells.

- Can't take Blackflame because you need to go for Chaos Damage nodes to scale FIRE spells now. What is the point of conversion?

- Can't go and make Death Knight with Armor+ES because you won't have enough points for damage.

- Oh damn, you need power charges to actually use your Ascendancy node. So more actions before you can fight.

- Alright, lets make it simple, just throw some fire spells, cast some profane ritual for charges just to use HWF once.

- Oh, forgot to tell you, you can't use HWF for apparition because it can't replicate spells from items. It can't replicate bunch of other spells too. Here goes your HWF build.

- And yeah, and when it replicates a spell it deals 60% LESS damage for some reason.


And this is something i encountered with almost everything i tried to play. I WANT to choose something that is not meta but very often i can't even try. I don't care if its bad, i just want to play it. But i guess better play deadeye.

I'm playing a fire sorc and blasting through maps. I went from fire, to fire-ice, to elemental infusions and ended up back at fire-only, because I didn't find a way to make all 3 elements work.

Just because you can't figure out how to make your build work, doesn't mean there's only one build.


No but before you post ... you should look at the stats ... cause there is only one build
I constantly feel I'm punished for theory crafting. Just saw they changed toxic domain to only work on certain weapons, Seriously why? Flame wall works on any type of projectile as far as I can tell, living bomb can use any type of damage to detonate, in my opinion all combo skills and supports should work like them and have absolutely minimal requirements. Not only should toxic domain work for any player projectiles, it should also work on melee hits within the area and it should also work for minions attacks, that's how arpgs are supposed to work.

There's a support skill that lets your projectile hits drop caltrops, you probably had no idea it existed because it only works for projectile spear skills. How the hell can that restriction be justified?
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No but before you post ... you should look at the stats ... cause there is only one build


Well, gee guy, I went ahead and checked looked at the stats and for players above 90 Deadeye isn't even at 40% and not even all of those are running the same build so I'm not sure what to do now. Please advise.

Like, big sorry but GGG can't do anything about some players' lack of originality. If the first 50k people all pick their build based on the whims of a couple streamers and the 50k after that all pick theirs because they just go to ninja and copy what the first 50k did then the stats are always going to look like this no matter what GGG does with balance or build variety.

Personally I'm playing Tactician and I have higher survivability, clear speed, and raw DPS than I have on any character since 0.1.

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Not only should toxic domain work for any player projectiles, it should also work on melee hits within the area and it should also work for minions attacks, that's how arpgs are supposed to work.


Seriously what is it with people in this community constantly trying to act like their personal takes are actually hard and fast rules of the ARPG genre? Like, guy it's fine if you disagree with how they implemented this ability but just say that. PoE2 is absolutely not by any stretch the first ARPG to gate certain abilities behind certain armor or weapon types. I would wager in fact that the majority of ARPGs have some kind of equipment-based constraints on abilities. This is a staple of RPGs in general going all the way back to pen-and-paper roleplaying games (e.g., many classic games prevent Cleric/Priest-type characters from using many of their abilities if they wield an edged weapon).
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Kerchunk#7797 wrote:

Personally I'm playing Tactician and I have higher survivability, clear speed, and raw DPS than I have on any character since 0.1.


If you have higher survivability clearspeed and dmg than a stat stacking gemling in 0.1 i wanna see that build.

And the general clearspeed is slower in 0.3 thna in 01.

Autobomber, Blink Spark, Attribute stacking had some insanely stupid clearspeed. and nothing in 0.3 can match that.
Last edited by Alzucard#2422 on Sep 14, 2025, 3:32:51 PM
Yep.

Ascendancies are terrible.
Skill tree is terrible.
~ Seph
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tinmei#3775 wrote:
So you're just mad at the game because you don't know how to make good builds? Or do you expect every random build slapped together without any rhyme or reason to be top tier? There are tons of very strong builds besides deadeye, you just need to swallow your pride and start off the base build of someone who know what he's doing then tweak things to your preferences.


So lets use frost darts as an example. Rank 3 pierce gem. Excellent for allowing you to let darts hit multiple targets, as a significsnt issue with darts is needing to hit chilled / frozen targets. Issue being 5 mobs run towards you, you chill 3 now the 2 unchilled mobs run to melee range and darts cant pierce. So you end up hitting the unchilled mobs over and over and over again. Annoying design. Ok pierce fixes this, except now when you infuse frost darts. They wont lodge into targets to detonate. Because now they pierce....ok that sucks. Remember this skill ALREADY does minimal damage, and is single target, and cant apply chill / freeze itself. Now for the kicker. You make a build that is producing tons of frost infusions. Sweet. Time for those sweet explosions right? Well only if you dont KILL the monster your hitting. Because if it dies, nothing explodes even if you just loaded him full of exploding infused darts. The ENTIRE skill at all levels resists you using it the way its designed. And it makes you jump thru hoops to do it.

Nobody is asking for 1 button screen clears. We just want skills to let us USE them without the redicilous restrictions.
hey you should read the post.

Nobody asked for build advice or clarity on game mechanics.

They said the game blows because it only has very few functional builds
that you are forced to play because the game makes sure nothing else can possibly work...

Do you see any build guides ...
No
Because the path as it were , has rails.

I see the skill tree now as the skill twigs from diablo.
just glue them together with really long paths of stats that will allow you to
use the weapon they have planned for you .

Seriously .. poe1 ... used to have massive content creators making all kinds of builds.

Not now , cause ... whatever
Last edited by Jitter912#4278 on Sep 14, 2025, 6:02:58 PM

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