Build variety my ass. Game has too many arbitrary and unnecessary restrictions.

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MadSheo#0280 wrote:

I had an idea to make an Abyssal Lich that uses Kulemaks items.

Doesn't Physical fit an Abyssal Lich more than Fire? If you pump Physical spells, and use His Vile Intrusion or His Foul Emergence, it might be easier. Personally, I'd love to try HVI, because it would be funny to blow monsters up from the inside.

The conversion logic is an extra level of 'special'.

Something called "Black Flame" is least useful for the fire caster.

Maybe look at what Abyssal Liches actually use

Say what you will about "plenty of builds" its still a fact that supports and skills have a Bunch of restrictions or limitations to use, which in turn restricts what people can creatively build. Felt pretty heavily with minion as thats what im playing atm, but im sure theres plenty of other classes that have similar issues.

Mmmmm.... Play as fire mage, by using a frost bomb and living bomb, or frost mage, by using frost bomb and living bomb? Maybe, fire-frost, by using frost bomb and living bomb?

Imho the fact that many passive nodes come with negatives forces players down a tight path for how to deal with it. Want that sweet 60% ES node? Now your ES recharge is f'ed and you have to spec into some recharge nodes or put more on gear to compensdate instead of using these resources for something that make the build more fun and flavorful. etc etc.

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Flowneppets#0528 wrote:

Imho the fact that many passive nodes come with negatives forces players down a tight path for how to deal with it. Want that sweet 60% ES node? Now your ES recharge is f'ed and you have to spec into some recharge nodes or put more on gear to compensdate instead of using these resources for something that make the build more fun and flavorful. etc etc.

You realize, by making the skills have no downsides, they need to buff the monsters too keep up with the damage taken/dealt?

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bloomhead#3858 wrote:

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Flowneppets#0528 wrote:

Imho the fact that many passive nodes come with negatives forces players down a tight path for how to deal with it. Want that sweet 60% ES node? Now your ES recharge is f'ed and you have to spec into some recharge nodes or put more on gear to compensdate instead of using these resources for something that make the build more fun and flavorful. etc etc.

You realize, by making the skills have no downsides, they need to buff the monsters too keep up with the damage taken/dealt?

As soon as the example was an ES node and not the vast sea of negatives in the warrior section of the tree, their argument loses a lot of weight. I understand the black flame part tho. It makes no sense. Correct me if I am wrong but when you specced full fire before and put on the black flame ring, it was a full conversion that still scaled off fire damage. But by ripping the unique ring off for the sake of adding a node of it, they corrupted it to scale differently. That node 100% should scale off fire and not chaos.

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Soulsniper1313#7576 wrote:

I understand the black flame part tho. It makes no sense. Correct me if I am wrong but when you specced full fire before and put on the black flame ring, it was a full conversion that still scaled off fire damage. But by ripping the unique ring off for the sake of adding a node of it, they corrupted it to scale differently. That node 100% should scale off fire and not chaos.

People really should read up on how the mechanics work, before they try their own builds:

https://www.poe2wiki.net/wiki/Damage_conversion

I cite: "Damage conversion is calculated after combining any sources of additional damage to base damage, but before any damage modifiers (e.g. increased or more damage)."

If that makes sense is up to debate, but that's how it is and I doubt it's going to change.