It's not fun anymore

It's fun to a degree. What annoys me the most is how essential ailment immunity is these days, because there are so many now, and it's not that easy to get on builds that don't cap Spell Suppression or run Purity of Elements. Try playing melee without ailment immunity and you are in for a bad time.

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

The game in t16s can be fun, just don't watch a fubgun stream and expect to have the same experience. Carefully selecting the part of the game that is fun for you while not bothering what others do is the secret. I play mostly t16 and switch aroudn strategies, i do not make 10 div an hour and i don't care about it, lmao..
Delve is cool, too and solid moeny this league...

Except when you come to trade with your 10-15 divs just to see the items you need cost 30 divs or more and you realise T16 just doesn't give you any currency at all. T16s are nice but sadly all the loot is not in T16s and if you only do T16s you will be dirt poor and you will have to play pseudo-SSF

Hah, dirt-poor, good joke.

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Johny_Snow#4778 wrote:

Hah, dirt-poor, good joke.

I am glad you enjoyed it. This league was "a good joke" for me. 0 currency, constant one shots and crushes / disconnects on top only to skip the entire league mechanic (because mercs one shot me), expansion mechanic and T17s because I couldn't afford to upgrade my gear. All of this just made me quit the league.

Champion with 70k armour,Capped block and spell block, 26 fortification, plenty of charges and 78-80% max res was dying in t16.5

I guess that's not enough, gotta have all the defense layers the game has to offer all at once.

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

Champion with 70k armour,Capped block and spell block, 26 fortification, plenty of charges and 78-80% max res was dying in t16.5

Pick your battles, mate. Avoid the mods you know will give you a hard time. I'm currently playing a Champion myself, with scuffed gear and almost no defenses, and I can run those maps just fine. I just avoid the ones I know are too risky for this particular character. I have a different toon for Mercs that I feel are valuable and too rippy to risk. It's why I always have at least 2 different characters in a league. Always at least one that can handle the rough stuff.

Get a proper Merc (I highly recommend Kineticist) and accept that you can't have it all. Certain mods or enemy combos are dangerous no matter what. The game is very different these days. For better or worse.

For the record, I will say that the mod pools of T16.5 and T17 are utter shite by comparison. They could really use a touch-up. They are so bad.

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

The game in t16s can be fun, just don't watch a fubgun stream and expect to have the same experience. Carefully selecting the part of the game that is fun for you while not bothering what others do is the secret. I play mostly t16 and switch aroudn strategies, i do not make 10 div an hour and i don't care about it, lmao..
Delve is cool, too and solid moeny this league...

Except when you come to trade with your 10-15 divs just to see the items you need cost 30 divs or more and you realise T16 just doesn't give you any currency at all. T16s are nice but sadly all the loot is not in T16s and if you only do T16s you will be dirt poor and you will have to play pseudo-SSF

That is not true and proven wrong. You don't take advantage of all teh random stuff that sells at Faustus if that is true for you. 10-15 divs is like 2 hours of intense playing. If you don't make that on t16s or delve in that time you have to much downtime. So you can buy a mageblood at some point. I am saving up right now while leveling to 100 with zero investment strategies like delve and abyss + red altars and i do not have the stress and anger while playing that i would have if i played t17s + i would not be able to go past lvl 95 on t17s probably. Getting exp is worth something, too.


Also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpqq_RYOo_0

I wouldn't go that far to do base line alch and go, but it doesn't seem as bad as people say it is ;)

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

The game in t16s can be fun, just don't watch a fubgun stream and expect to have the same experience. Carefully selecting the part of the game that is fun for you while not bothering what others do is the secret. I play mostly t16 and switch aroudn strategies, i do not make 10 div an hour and i don't care about it, lmao..
Delve is cool, too and solid moeny this league...

Except when you come to trade with your 10-15 divs just to see the items you need cost 30 divs or more and you realise T16 just doesn't give you any currency at all. T16s are nice but sadly all the loot is not in T16s and if you only do T16s you will be dirt poor and you will have to play pseudo-SSF

That is not true and proven wrong. You don't take advantage of all teh random stuff that sells at Faustus if that is true for you. 10-15 divs is like 2 hours of intense playing. If you don't make that on t16s or delve in that time you have to much downtime. So you can buy a mageblood at some point. I am saving up right now while leveling to 100 with zero investment strategies like delve and abyss + red altars and i do not have the stress and anger while playing that i would have if i played t17s + i would not be able to go past lvl 95 on t17s probably. Getting exp is worth something, too.


Also here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zpqq_RYOo_0

I wouldn't go that far to do base line alch and go, but it doesn't seem as bad as people say it is ;)

I am really glad you had better experience than me, maybe I am just an outlier. I switched 3 builds before just quitting. Wealthyexile averaged my stash at around 5 divs total + 10 raw divines and around 200c. That's probably my poorest league ever. Not only I got literally nothing outside ritual but I also never seen divines on the mercs, not once.

I might have downtime but with my ADHD I just can't map non stop, however it was never an issue before Mercenaries, last league I managed to get Mageblood by day 7-8. To be fair though this league really did me dirty with the crashes and disconnects, it took me 5 days to complete the atlas with the amount of maps I lost. I was losing 9 out of 10 maps even on Washington. Could be that as well.

P.S. Thanks for the video, will watch it later for sure

u don't need ALL of them, only 3 or 4

I'm 50/50 on some of the sentiment here.

Yes, it's more of a grind but here are some things to keep in mind.

1) Free games are made to be addicting and not made to be "good"
2) This is a quantity over quality type of game
3) There is always ruthless


I'd like for them to do PoE classic one day. And take away ascendency and jewel sockets and sort of give us that back to some extent. make trade forum shops only.

I'd really like for them to consolidate the quantity. There are too many bases. Too much stuff. Just too much stuff.

All that being said, there is always ruthless.

Also, you see my build doesn't stack too much defense and it's quite good enough for all non uber content. Plenty of ways to build still but there are guard rails now to either be a mirror tier glass cannon or build something simple like mine.

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

Pick your battles, mate. Avoid the mods you know will give you a hard time....It's why I always have at least 2 different characters in a league. Always at least one that can handle the rough stuff.

Well that doesn't mean he's hyperbolic, the game wrongly eeds a crap tone of defenses at this day, on top of researched techs around the skill tree that probably most of the builds look after. (Ie uber expensive).

If u dont wanna use a regex code for maps, there probably aren't many builds on medium badget.

And now what? I need 2 characters to play a league?
Honestly dude, the necessity of having 2 different characters to play the majority of one league is the wrong direction.