Why Does PoE2 Keep XP Loss on Death?

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eschandin#3638 wrote:

For real,that is a arpg and not diablo.

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vampirekid13#2811 wrote:

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eschandin#3638 wrote:

For real,that is a arpg and not diablo.

every good diablo game also had exp loss on death.

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Elua#0230 wrote:

PoE2 will never be popular game if GGG will keep xp death loss.

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Pendarinchik#3879 wrote:

Good day, dear developers and game designers of PoE2!

I’d like to share my thoughts and hear yours on the game mechanic of losing experience upon character death.

While playing PoE2, I don’t use meta builds—instead, I play builds that seem fun to try out. As a result, screens don’t explode (metaphorically), and progression isn’t as fast. So, I’ve been mapping again, reached level 87, and once more encountered sudden one-shots.

This time, it struck me that these deaths frustrate me and create psychological pressure specifically because of the experience loss. I don’t mind losing a map attempt, and I don’t mind replaying the map, but I really dislike that my progression can literally stall if I die more often than I gain experience. Right now, it’s practically at a standstill—I get 5-10% exp from a T15 map with 3 nodes, which I lose with any misstep.

Moreover, I feel this mechanic in PoE2 seems unnecessary and only causes irritation. The game is already challenging enough and demands engagement, both in terms of learning mechanics for build creation and in actual gameplay (dodging, timely skill usage). Players whose builds "explode screens" won’t even feel this exp loss, so the main issue affects players like me. And the amount of exp needed to reach level 100 is already substantial.

In my opinion, experience loss is an outdated, artificial way to prolong gameplay, which only leads to frustration. Without it, I’d still feel my character progressing despite deaths, and higher levels might eventually make things easier. But with this mechanic, players can hit a wall—dying more often than they gain exp.

Since I’m criticizing, I’d also like to suggest alternatives. If this is truly a key and important mechanic (and I’m just missing the bigger picture), perhaps players could be given a choice—for example:

Respawn in town/hideout (lose the map attempt but keep exp), or

Continue the map (lose exp but keep remaining portals).

So, my question to the game designers is: How exactly is this mechanic supposed to improve the gameplay experience? Maybe I’m overlooking something. I’d be glad to hear your response. Thanks in advance!

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Zoidberg50#9782 wrote:

This game is damn hard. That's what I like about it. I do however die too muhc and never passed level 95, this league I can't pass level 90. Exp loss isn't the problem, dying is the problem. I think surviving and the damage and seeing what killed a person would be very useful. A summary of your death.
In my favorate game Terarria it always says what killed you, even if it's a backhanded mockery at least you see something.