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Their 'solution' for player retention is to force glacial gameplay. They're actively sabotaging the player experience with debilitating nerfs, oppressive crowd control, and artificial delays, effectively speedrunning their own game's demise. Imagine a 100+ hour campaign – that's their goal. This isn't an ARPG; it's a slow-motion torture simulator. Thankfully, Last Epoch arrives in two weeks, offering a much-needed escape from this disastrous patch. It's clear why they held back the patch notes; they knew the backlash would be immediate.
I still find that claim egregious.
Who the hell wants to play an arpg's campaign for the same time it would take to 100% like 3 other games
Campaign can be beaten in 7 hours with the proper equipment. We will see how long it takes after the patch
I'm aware of that lol, still makes what they said ridiculous
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Posted byDarkLordOdeo#6686on Apr 3, 2025, 1:25:08 AM
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grim feast being removed instead of nerfed is actually hilarious, now everyone can make their own build cause everything is shit now lol
I actually thought this was one of the craziest things.
I figured it would get nerfed some but removed is just nuts.
Like, even with a SSF HC witch going MoM, GrimFeast, Shield, stacking defenses, you still damn near get 1 shot sometimes.
My biggest gripe so far is they seem intent on making your character a bitch even if you stack defenses.
same, figured id be fine but then realized shock siphon gone as well. Now think ill just die more to compenstate.
"Beidat honored the pact, though Mancy wouldn't take off Doryani’s prototype."
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Posted byDirefell#7544on Apr 3, 2025, 2:56:19 AM
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"Many Skills have had their base damage and/or damage growth per level rebalanced. Most of these changes are not specifically mentioned below as the changes are too widespread."
Learn to read.
The devs really should have made that bullet point the *entire* skill gem changes section because it already means there is absolutely no point to the rest of them.
Releasing patch notes was a mistake.
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"Many Skills have had their base damage and/or damage growth per level rebalanced. Most of these changes are not specifically mentioned below as the changes are too widespread."
Learn to read.
The devs really should have made that bullet point the *entire* skill gem changes section because it already means there is absolutely no point to the rest of them.
Releasing patch notes was a mistake.
That first line is "numbers go up, or numbers go down" there are alot of skills whose primary functions and feel were nerfed into the ground.
Yes the first line will probably be the thing that reveals what the broken builds will be but they are still trying to nerf anything that was more thank 500k dps so i wouldnt be surprised if that line has less buffs than you think it does.
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Posted byMalgeo318#2320on Apr 3, 2025, 8:04:00 AM
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Aside from the bug fixes which are nice, it looks like they nerfed the fun right out of the game. I suspect player retention will rapidly drop off within a few weeks at most after this patch goes live. I hope that isn't the case when we start playing after the patch goes live.
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fk ggg
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Just nerfs to weak things?
Are you sure? I mean, i get u want to be dramatic. But seriously? Want to come to some voice chat and go through the notes together? Maybe i can help you to see things.
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Posted byMadSheo#0280on Apr 3, 2025, 8:38:49 AM
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Worst part is the warcries getting nerfed, even though they had terrible damage already.
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Posted bydoombybbr#6074on Apr 3, 2025, 10:05:56 AM
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yup, i mean yes warcry builds were good map clearing skills, but not because they had a lot of dmg, just cuz of explosions and tankiness.
now they literally don't even have tankiness or any dmg.
in fact, they even have much less aoe.
so they nerfed
1- the AoE "the your presence nerf and removal from explosions ascendancy"
you mind to explain what you mean with that?
so far as i understand this, the aoe of the corpse explosion effect on the warbringer ascendancy, is actually bigger then before:
"The Warcaller's Bellow Ascendancy Passive Skill now causes Warcries to Explode Corpses, dealing 25% of their Life as Physical Damage, instead of providing "Corpses in your Presence Explode when you Warcry, dealing 25% of their Life as Physical Damage". This allows for Warcry area of effect to scale the Corpse explosion radius."
The warcries fill pretty much the whole screen, "in your precence" was not nearly that big. And now even the warcry aoe nodes affect the explosion radius even further, so to me this looks actually like a buff to aoe and not a nerf.
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Posted byLickingLama#2195on Apr 3, 2025, 10:06:00 AM
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yup, i mean yes warcry builds were good map clearing skills, but not because they had a lot of dmg, just cuz of explosions and tankiness.
now they literally don't even have tankiness or any dmg.
in fact, they even have much less aoe.
so they nerfed
1- the AoE "the your presence nerf and removal from explosions ascendancy"
you mind to explain what you mean with that?
so far as i understand this, the aoe of the corpse explosion effect on the warbringer ascendancy, is actually bigger then before:
"The Warcaller's Bellow Ascendancy Passive Skill now causes Warcries to Explode Corpses, dealing 25% of their Life as Physical Damage, instead of providing "Corpses in your Presence Explode when you Warcry, dealing 25% of their Life as Physical Damage". This allows for Warcry area of effect to scale the Corpse explosion radius."
The warcries fill pretty much the whole screen, "in your precence" was not nearly that big. And now even the warcry aoe nodes affect the explosion radius even further, so to me this looks actually like a buff to aoe and not a nerf.
In your presence was 6 meters and war cry radius was 4 base.
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