patch notes out, turns out they are just nerfes to what's already weak?

nerf on a skill is not a nerf if we don't know potential synergies with 100 new supports and uniques. Stop reacting like headless chicken and emotionaly instead of technicaly on a technical stuff.

Even for early game some nerfed gems can be more powerful than in season 0 - based on interactions with supports and compared to double drop rate of runes with new rune tiers..

it's not that simple...
Last edited by saashaa#5518 on Apr 3, 2025, 1:28:27 PM
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
nerf on a skill is not a nerf if we don't know potential synergies with 100 new supports and uniques. Stop reacting like headless chicken and emotionaly instead of technicaly on a technical stuff.

Even for early game some nerfed gems can be more powerful than in season 0 - based on interactions with supports and compared to double drop rate of runes with new rune tiers..

it's not that simple...

you wont be using the higher tier runes in the "early game" thats..not their function, the low tier runes will be worse from what we've seen
a support/unique that exists to undo a change wont bring more meaningful interactions cause now it only works to fill in a gap they dug into a skill.
And on top of that, theyre doing everything they can to hide support gem info which is not the move of people confident in what they did.
But I want to ask what emergent gameplay does syzergy bring to the table?
Armor break and ignite an enemy, heavy stun them for..10% more damage.
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
nerf on a skill is not a nerf if we don't know potential synergies with 100 new supports and uniques. Stop reacting like headless chicken and emotionaly instead of technicaly on a technical stuff.

Even for early game some nerfed gems can be more powerful than in season 0 - based on interactions with supports and compared to double drop rate of runes with new rune tiers..

it's not that simple...


They literally tell you how they changed the fundamental mechanics of hexblast. If you cannot tell that is a nerf then you are really not paying any attention and are huffing copium.
During the Q&A they stated there were massive swaths of buffs in the base damages of various skills. Wait to find what those are before you complain about nerfs. I think GGG was very wrong to not include some amount of those changes in the patch notes, because those are where all the buffs are.
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bruh pls learn communication skills, grimfeast? what does that have to do with anything the post is about ? lol
the post is about how skills that weak in certain ways are getting even weaker in those ways.

it has nothing to do with the things that are op getting nerfed.

actually why am i even trying to understand you here....


Nice doubling down.

1) Read your title, again

here's a little picture for you since communication skills and lacking was brought up :D



2) Go to the patch notes, again
3) Control+F and type "Archmage"


Let me know if you want any more contradictions to your thread! Ill keep the same format to help you out.

Gotta make sure our titles actually have any weight behind them. Which did not happen in the creation of this thread. :D
Mash the clean
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bruh pls learn communication skills, grimfeast? what does that have to do with anything the post is about ? lol
the post is about how skills that weak in certain ways are getting even weaker in those ways.

it has nothing to do with the things that are op getting nerfed.

actually why am i even trying to understand you here....


Nice doubling down.

1) Read your title, again

here's a little picture for you since communication skills and lacking was brought up :D



2) Go to the patch notes, again
3) Control+F and type "Archmage"


Let me know if you want any more contradictions to your thread! Ill keep the same format to help you out.

Gotta make sure our titles actually have any weight behind them. Which did not happen in the creation of this thread. :D


what the actual F do you eat for dinner, you prove your complete lack of communication skills by repeating the same nonsense ? i am literally not even attacking you here i genuinely don't understand what's wrong with you now lol.

it's almost as if you think the patch notes contained one single line of text and that line of text is "archmage" LoL.

the patch nerfed 90+ things, at least half of which are already weak. this is a post about the nerfs that hit what's already weak. in no place did the post even talk about the "op" builds like archmage, no one is sad about that shit.
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saashaa#5518 wrote:
nerf on a skill is not a nerf if we don't know potential synergies with 100 new supports and uniques. Stop reacting like headless chicken and emotionaly instead of technicaly on a technical stuff.

Even for early game some nerfed gems can be more powerful than in season 0 - based on interactions with supports and compared to double drop rate of runes with new rune tiers..

it's not that simple...


you are not wrong, but. i can promise the way numbers work will still be within logic :p

corrupted blood seismic nerf is too big for a skill that was already doing shit dps. it is so high, you will need to add 3 additional damage support for the skill and you will barely get back to where it was before, underperforming.

and even if you give seismic 3 extra dmg supports for corrupted blood, you still lost the utility supports that were in those sockets "so more area and less cost"

again i can give other exampeles for other nerfs, and you could say "if the numbers come out, it's all good"
but the numbers won't be high enough to conmpensate.

in fact even sunder buff "from 1.4 sec to 1" to wind up, that's still gonna be like 2 seconds + it does not solve the original problem of which, bosses perform their full ability before sunder can do a single swing.
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what the actual F do you eat for dinner, you prove your complete lack of communication skills by repeating the same nonsense ? i am literally not even attacking you here i genuinely don't understand what's wrong with you now lol.

it's almost as if you think the patch notes contained one single line of text and that line of text is "archmage" LoL.

the patch nerfed 90+ things, at least half of which are already weak. this is a post about the nerfs that hit what's already weak. in no place did the post even talk about the "op" builds like archmage, no one is sad about that shit.


Alright tripling down

1) Reread your title, again x2

Here it is again in picture form so you can really see whomever created this title, lacks communication skills. And reading of the patch notes as well


2) Go to the patch notes
3) Control+F and type "Herald Skills"

Let me know if you want any more contradictions to your thread! Ill keep the same format to help you out.
Mash the clean
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let me get this straight, the ONLY thing that was not overpowered about the warcries builds was the damage, and yet, the damage is literally the biggest nerf that warcries received? i don't get it.


like literally you guys just nerfed all attributes sources to the ground, nerfed the way warcries work, nerfed the ONLY SUPPORT that worked with warcries "brutality" so now warcries will probably do at WAY LESS Than they used to.

and yet, you also nerfed the overall attributes anyway so even defensively they are giga nerfed.

i genuinely don't get it, why are we nerfing warrior related shit ? was warrior too strong with it's literally like 2 viable builds ?

hammer of gods now don't work on pinnacles anymore, the only thing that made warriors kill bosses.
brutality is nerfed, warcries are nerfed, so now we are left with the average warrior builds which all were in the very bottom of the other builds.

Actually warrior is the only class that buffed it bro. Open your eyes and see deeper. Deepest tower helmet unique item will bring 540% increased damage if you go with this build. Nerfing some skills doesn't mean it comes the apocalypse.
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what the actual F do you eat for dinner, you prove your complete lack of communication skills by repeating the same nonsense ? i am literally not even attacking you here i genuinely don't understand what's wrong with you now lol.


I feel you, that guy is fun:) Sincerely believes that willingness to dance to GGG tune and putting up with everything they throw his way defines him as "better player", which obviously mean his opinion on game design weighs more than opinion of people who actually work game design/development for a living:)

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