The BIGGEST ISSUE with the POE2 community is THINKING IT SHOULD BE JUST LIKE POE1.

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Akedomo#3573 wrote:

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BrainVs#6980 wrote:

the biggest issue with the poe community is everyone wants something different

and ggg is going to have to pick one group to please (spoilers is streamers)

They don't have to pick anything.

The people that like PoE 1, can go play PoE 1. They don't need to make PoE 2 like PoE 1 to appeal to the old demographic of players.

They're different games. The community just needs a wakeup call.

I honestly regret spending my money on this game seeing how utterly entitled the old PoE 1 players are with the way they're looking down on casual players. One of the worst communities I've seen in a long time. Over an ARPG too. Pathetic.

Of they wanted to make a different game they would have. They made a sequel and removed a lot of what made it good. As time goes on i believe the bridge will be gapped.

Its even more frustrating when those same people didn't listen to a word of what the Devs said about how this won't be anything like POE 1 and if you want POE 1 to stay on board with POE 1 lol

Its even more frustrating when those same people didn't listen to a word of what the Devs said about how this won't be anything like POE 1 and if you want POE 1 to stay on board with POE 1 lol

POE2 shouldn't be like POE1, it should be better than it.

POE2, shouldn't make mistakes they made in POE1,

they shouldn't try to invent wheel again just to end up with a square.

"Getting inspired" by other games, then just implementing it worse than the original (Looking at you rune-socket system).

Failing to provide any challenge to players with alive monsters, so they rely on sneaky-near instant-one shot death effects to kill players, on top of having only 1 portal per map. It is SAD.

Glorifying crafting, just to have it much worse than poe1 with little to no deterministic crafting. Crafting in POE2 as of now is just pure gamble, like IDing rares but worse, at least Tiered rares has a better chance of being good than "crafting" yourself. You have an excellent (in my eyes) example in the genre, check how Last Epoch does! Get inspired by some deterministic crafting aswell! Not everything has to be pure luck!

GGG has more than 10 years of experience in the ARPG genre now, and in some parts they clearly show it. Remember how basic and how little content the poe1 beta or first launch had? POE2 gameplay, lore, environment, VA, graphics, etc. are much better than poe1 launch. But once things come to balancing stuff and adding/removing mechanisms, they forget 10+ years experience and act like poe2 is their first game and they have never done something like this. Take lesson from your mistakes GGG, and don't repeat them. Because if you repeat your mistakes just to correct them later, then it means, you haven't learned a thing.

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Hyperspacing#5593 wrote:

Its even more frustrating when those same people didn't listen to a word of what the Devs said about how this won't be anything like POE 1 and if you want POE 1 to stay on board with POE 1 lol

Then they should have named it something different. They made a sequel no matter what they say about it naming it poe2 set the bar of expectation. Devs can be wrong you are aware of that right? Their word isn't gospel.

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Th1sGuy255255#8969 wrote:

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Hyperspacing#5593 wrote:

Its even more frustrating when those same people didn't listen to a word of what the Devs said about how this won't be anything like POE 1 and if you want POE 1 to stay on board with POE 1 lol

Then they should have named it something different. They made a sequel no matter what they say about it naming it poe2 set the bar of expectation. Devs can be wrong you are aware of that right? Their word isn't gospel.

Why do they need to name it something different if they spent 8 months making it vitally clear that this is NOT a sequel. Its their vision, their dream, and their product. You and I have zero say about it. We can give advice and feedback but untimely its their product and vision. If people keep comparing it to POE 1 and think POE 1 is a superior product...Then go play POE 1. The Devs and a vast majority of the community will happily see them to the door.

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luiz1220#4047 wrote:

I dont think you have experience enough as a developer nor as a PoE player to decide whats right or wrong.

Looking at your posts, this is quite ironic..

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Hyperspacing#5593 wrote:

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Th1sGuy255255#8969 wrote:

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Hyperspacing#5593 wrote:

Its even more frustrating when those same people didn't listen to a word of what the Devs said about how this won't be anything like POE 1 and if you want POE 1 to stay on board with POE 1 lol

Then they should have named it something different. They made a sequel no matter what they say about it naming it poe2 set the bar of expectation. Devs can be wrong you are aware of that right? Their word isn't gospel.

Why do they need to name it something different if they spent 8 months making it vitally clear that this is NOT a sequel. Its their vision, their dream, and their product. You and I have zero say about it. We can give advice and feedback but untimely its their product and vision. If people keep comparing it to POE 1 and think POE 1 is a superior product...Then go play POE 1. The Devs and a vast majority of the community will happily see them to the door.

And they set the bar of expectation by naming it as a sequel instead of a new game. Not everyone follows all their live streams and nor should they. They named it as a sequel so it is one no matter what they say lmao

The biggest issue in the community is people like OP thinking we want PoE 2 be like PoE 1 when what we want is the PoE 1 systems in PoE 2 be BETTER than in PoE 1.

Right now every single system in the game that was in PoE 1 is objectively WORSE in PoE 2 than in 1, and that is a fact.

If devs didn't want PoE 2 to be like PoE 1 then why port almost every single BAD mechanic from 1?

PoE 2 right now is just an amalgamation of the worse systems in PoE 1 in the worst state ever. They managed to fk up breach and atlas.



If anyone thinks that we shouldn't use PoE 1 as the benchmark for PoE 2 you are delusional and being disingenuous. Why wouldn't we want PoE 2 to be "like" a massively good reviewed game as PoE 1 is? And the funny thing is that PoE 2 will always be "like" PoE 1 because, surprise surprise, the game is *kinda* the same game as it should be. PoE 1 but better, not worse.

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Wauxx#0810 wrote:

The biggest issue in the community is people like OP thinking we want PoE 2 be like PoE 1 when what we want is the PoE 1 systems in PoE 2 be BETTER than in PoE 1.

Right now every single system in the game that was in PoE 1 is objectively WORSE in PoE 2 than in 1, and that is a fact.

If devs didn't want PoE 2 to be like PoE 1 then why port almost every single BAD mechanic from 1?

PoE 2 right now is just an amalgamation of the worse systems in PoE 1 in the worst state ever. They managed to fk up breach and atlas.



If anyone thinks that we shouldn't use PoE 1 as the benchmark for PoE 2 you are delusional and being disingenuous. Why wouldn't we want PoE 2 to be "like" a massively good reviewed game as PoE 1 is? And the funny thing is that PoE 2 will always be "like" PoE 1 because, surprise surprise, the game is *kinda* the same game as it should be. PoE 1 but better, not worse.

+1

You got it right, unlike the OP.