Then let us do big changes too. Doh.
Just trash the entire idea of paid respecs. It wasn’t a good idea in the first place. Add a time delay if you want to timegate people so much.
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Posted bySandcubicle#5745on Dec 12, 2024, 10:05:41 PM
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To get it out of the way. They should offer free respec for big changes. There are clearly some overlooked untested balancing issues, like trials.
However, the whole point of early access is to open it up to a large playerbase to find broken things and fix it. Overpowered and unintended interactions will get fixed. There haven't only been nerfs.
Many skills and supports aren't even implemented for the current classes, let alone the other 6 and other ascendancies we are getting.
Many posts are acting like this a finished PoE league. This is not that. If you can't handle big changes then I suggest waiting for full release.
There are legitimate criticisms and good feedback to give. But it is just boggling the expectations people have when GGG have communicated extremely well about the state of the game and what this period is for.
Stay sane, Exiles.
So.. literally the first thing you state in your post is the direct and immediate resolution to wasting everyone's time; you knew it before you even posted, and yet here you are still posting.
It's not at all unreasonable of an expectation to not have many hours of time utterly trashed when and immediate and obvious solution exists to even the most lowly of forum user posting a thread like this.
Shit happens, things go wrong in early access and betas. But when solutions are not only possible, but downright obvious, it is absolutely appropriate to be angry that they are not employed without severe backlash.
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Posted byPathological#1188on Dec 12, 2024, 10:15:52 PM
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To get it out of the way. They should offer free respec for big changes. There are clearly some overlooked untested balancing issues, like trials.
However, the whole point of early access is to open it up to a large playerbase to find broken things and fix it. Overpowered and unintended interactions will get fixed. There haven't only been nerfs.
Many skills and supports aren't even implemented for the current classes, let alone the other 6 and other ascendancies we are getting.
Many posts are acting like this a finished PoE league. This is not that. If you can't handle big changes then I suggest waiting for full release.
There are legitimate criticisms and good feedback to give. But it is just boggling the expectations people have when GGG have communicated extremely well about the state of the game and what this period is for.
Stay sane, Exiles.
So.. literally the first thing you state in your post is the direct and immediate resolution to wasting everyone's time; you knew it before you even posted, and yet here you are still posting.
It's not at all unreasonable of an expectation to not have many hours of time utterly trashed when and immediate and obvious solution exists to even the most lowly of forum user posting a thread like this.
Shit happens, things go wrong in early access and betas. But when solutions are not only possible, but downright obvious, it is absolutely appropriate to be angry that they are not employed without severe backlash.
I agree they should have given a free respec. But the majority of complaining I see is about skills/builds being nerfed and "ruining the fun builds." The free respec is an afterthought to these complaints, hence the point.
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Posted byFractalmind#4252on Dec 13, 2024, 12:01:12 AM
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To get it out of the way. They should offer free respec for big changes. There are clearly some overlooked untested balancing issues, like trials.
However, the whole point of early access is to open it up to a large playerbase to find broken things and fix it. Overpowered and unintended interactions will get fixed. There haven't only been nerfs.
Many skills and supports aren't even implemented for the current classes, let alone the other 6 and other ascendancies we are getting.
Many posts are acting like this a finished PoE league. This is not that. If you can't handle big changes then I suggest waiting for full release.
There are legitimate criticisms and good feedback to give. But it is just boggling the expectations people have when GGG have communicated extremely well about the state of the game and what this period is for.
Stay sane, Exiles.
100% agree with this. It's ridiculous how delusional they are with this sense of entitlement.
I got the sauce. Last edited by Holigawd#2935 on Dec 13, 2024, 12:48:01 AM
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Posted byHoligawd#2935on Dec 13, 2024, 12:03:21 AM
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People have a right to be 'outraged'. Diablo 3 released almost 13 years ago now, with MORE viable builds than this has currently. There is no excuse.
And Diablo 3 had a terrible cash-grab release where the Devs purposely made the game nearly impossible so people would be forced to use the auction house to buy a weapon and gear. And of course they made hundreds of millions with that.
But even with that terrible game mode, the game still had more build depth than PoE2 during this 'early access'.
This isn't 'early access'. What this is, is "If we don't release this game before Christmas our shareholders will demolish us over missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars".
It should also tell you something that the vast MAJORITY of PoE1 and other ARPG vets who aren't entirely reliant on ARPGs (like Kripp for example. NOT like Rhykker for example) are saying the same things. They are saying it's bad. They are saying 2 weeks is the limit for grinding.
The art and details look great, but those things don't make a game a good game. There's an ARPG called 'Chronicon' made by a SINGLE dev which has overwhelmingly positive reviews that has 100x more depth than PoE2.
PoE2 tries to hide the fact it has no original end game, no original takes on items, literally no substance at all. Like, quite literally there is no depth to the game. It shipped with crappy meta builds, and glaringly obvious dev mistakes like Gas Arrows doing 850% weapon damage while Ice Shots do like 80% for Merc.
This was a cash grab. If you are too stupid to understand that, that is your own fault. I'm enjoying parts of the game but as someone with decent intelligence, I can already see from the gem systems and the way items have not only been limited, but simplified, that there is no end game unless you feel like grinding meta builds and sitting on the trading app.
This would be a poor attempt at an ARPG for even a completely new studio. All they did was copy paste some things from PoE1 for end game.
I do want to thank the POE2 Devs though. I am MUCH more thankful for Diablo 4 and Last Epoch now that I see just how bad it can be when the devs are fully focused on selling cosmetics and making shareholder numbers. When even ActivisionBlizzard is outperforming you, it's GG.
And doubling the campaign won't fix anything. There's too many bad systems in the game. You will notice a continuous trend with those who have lower intelligence and worshipping this game and those who have higher who criticize it.
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Posted byn3m0#7490on Dec 13, 2024, 12:39:48 AM
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Many posts are acting like this a finished PoE league. This is not that. If you can't handle big changes then I suggest waiting for full release.
My thoughts exactly. I think focusing on nerfs before bringing some of the lower performing skills up is maybe a miss, but I think given a month or two and we'll all look back on this as a rough start but one that got better over time.
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Posted byGandalf1582#9127on Dec 13, 2024, 12:46:00 AM
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People have a right to be 'outraged'. Diablo 3 released almost 13 years ago now, with MORE viable builds than this has currently. There is no excuse.
And Diablo 3 had a terrible cash-grab release where the Devs purposely made the game nearly impossible so people would be forced to use the auction house to buy a weapon and gear. And of course they made hundreds of millions with that.
But even with that terrible game mode, the game still had more build depth than PoE2 during this 'early access'.
This isn't 'early access'. What this is, is "If we don't release this game before Christmas our shareholders will demolish us over missing out on hundreds of millions of dollars".
I absolutely agree with this. THAT SAID, I'm still having fun. But this needed more cook time.
I'm just not happy with how they handled a few things, things that have been solved already by other games even. I also have hope because ggg have done well in the past to react favourably to player feedback in most cases.
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Posted byHashBob#0163on Dec 13, 2024, 12:49:03 AM
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I absolutely agree with this. THAT SAID, I'm still having fun. But this needed more cook time.
This IS the extra cook time, you just get to see it live.
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Posted byGandalf1582#9127on Dec 13, 2024, 1:01:16 AM
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