Early Access Discussion - The amount of outrage is insane. The point of EA is big changes. - Forum

" Fractalmind#4252 wrote: " Jokke1989#7206 wrote: " Fractalmind#4252 wrote: However, the whole point of early access is to open it up to a large playerbase to find broken things and fix it. Overpowered and unintended interactions will get fixed. There haven't only been nerfs. Sure, if the game didn't have a paywall Would be easier to open up to a large playerbase if it was free Or "invite only", if concerned about playerload As soon as the game selling big packs and in-game cosmetics Sorry, but "it's early access" arguments ain't as valid any longer They have opend up themselves to being critized as a payed product No one forced you to buy it. They communicated possibly the best any game studio has ever done about the state of the game and the intention for this. It's buy to enter, but ends up being free on release since you get equivalent shop points in both games. Ofc not But they still sold me a product at a cost They've made more than most fully released games will already This "it's early access" excuse to dodge all critism just doesn't apply any longer BTW, I have no skin in the game when it comes to respecs I didn't play any "broken builds" Have just been playing as I go Allthough, I have wanted free or much cheaper respec from the start It's one of the things that I think many had an impression would be in PoE 2 Last edited by Jokke1989#7206 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:26:21 AM	Posted by Jokke1989#7206 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:18:24 AM Quote this Post
As has been mentioned it's just because of the stupid respec cost, everyone should of got a free respec after the patch.	Posted by badgalmira#5030 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:19:21 AM Quote this Post
" Jokke1989#7206 wrote: This "it's early access" excuse to dodge all critism just doesn't apply any longer BTW, I have no skin in the game when it comes to respecs I didn't play any "broken builds" Have just been playing as I go Allthough, I have wanted free or much cheaper respec from the start It's one of the things that I think many had an impression would be in PoE 2 This game has so many combinations (and more to come), it's impossible to test them all. That is a huge reason for EA. I specifically stated there are good criticisms, it's not being used to dodge them. I also agree there should be free respecs on big changes, and possibly cheaper overall. But later on you are absolutely swimming in gold, so just for testing purposes perhaps it makes sense. I have more gold than I can use now. Last edited by Fractalmind#4252 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:29:54 AM	Posted by Fractalmind#4252 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:28:48 AM Quote this Post
I rarely post on the internet anymore for various reasons, but this had to be said. This is Early Access. There are going to be drastic changes, and you need to accept that if you have chosen to participate in it. There is a real possibility your characters may be wiped and your progress deleted at some point throughout this process. Criticism is welcomed and encouraged, as long as it is constructive and doesn't devolve into a rant about the anger you have around a specific change that has effectively made "all the time I spent in this build wasted". I trust in the process and in the ability and capabilities of the staff at GGG and I am personally happy with the direction they've chosen to take with this game. I hope they aren't too deterred by the negativity out there. Those that are content and happy are usually the more silent, but I hope they find their voice and let them know how much their work and dedication is appreciated. As this is early access, I would like to input my criticism while I'm here: - Continue to work on balancing the characters as best as you can. You've shared your goal and vision of creating a game where a variety of builds can be played on equal footing to avoid "META" or "Broken Builds". I applaud the ambitiousness of the task before you. - Please consider making respecs free or extremely reduced, especially for Early Access when testing is encouraged. Thanks again!	Posted by Seppeus#5182 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:30:51 AM Quote this Post
" Seppeus#5182 wrote: I rarely post on the internet anymore for various reasons, but this had to be said. This is Early Access. There are going to be drastic changes, and you need to accept that if you have chosen to participate in it. There is a real possibility your characters may be wiped and your progress deleted at some point throughout this process. Criticism is welcomed and encouraged, as long as it is constructive and doesn't devolve into a rant about the anger you have around a specific change that has effectively made "all the time I spent in this build wasted". I trust in the process and in the ability and capabilities of the staff at GGG and I am personally happy with the direction they've chosen to take with this game. I hope they aren't too deterred by the negativity out there. Those that are content and happy are usually the more silent, but I hope they find their voice and let them know how much their work and dedication is appreciated. As this is early access, I would like to input my criticism while I'm here: - Continue to work on balancing the characters as best as you can. You've shared your goal and vision of creating a game where a variety of builds can be played on equal footing to avoid "META" or "Broken Builds". I applaud the ambitiousness of the task before you. - Please consider making respecs free or extremely reduced, especially for Early Access when testing is encouraged. Thanks again! Thanks for posting. I've made a point to share my positive feedback (and criticisms) because of us generally being more silent. I think it's important. Last edited by Fractalmind#4252 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:41:33 AM	Posted by Fractalmind#4252 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:40:57 AM Quote this Post
POE 1 got to where it is because of these same crybabies. They do it 'cause it works. Give it time, and POE 2 will turn into exactly POE 1 but with better graphics, and double the character choice.	Posted by lupasvasile#5385 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:42:47 AM Quote this Post
I think the main issue with cold sorc is that there just wasn't a whole lot of options, while I agree CoF shouldn't have been 100% of the damage done the current change is a bit too strict. Anyways once I grabbed all of the meta nodes and incorporated meta jewels the cast on freeze still goes off quite often. I did add back in cold snap while isn't very visually appealing it still wipes mobs. I think a free respec is definitely needed, I'm a little nervous about starting a new character, may wait until next season to try a different build as I don't want to get nerfed hard like that again mid gameplay.	Posted by myBLUEjeansIStight#1999 on Dec 12, 2024, 9:56:08 AM Quote this Post
" lupasvasile#5385 wrote: POE 1 got to where it is because of these same crybabies. They do it 'cause it works. Give it time, and POE 2 will turn into exactly POE 1 but with better graphics, and double the character choice. Let's hope not, considering there is a separate game for that now :)	Posted by Fractalmind#4252 on Dec 12, 2024, 10:11:39 AM Quote this Post
Many of the "get gud!! ROFL skill issue" crowd is losing the plot now with "Omg you brick my build Unspent a whole 5 days on!". Guess they didn't comprehend what Early Access means, as they were swimming in their own toxicity... I will watch as they lose it with all the big changes coming in the coming weeks and months of EA.	Posted by MildlyClever#2548 on Dec 12, 2024, 10:20:47 AM Quote this Post
For me it's just funny that seemingly like 90% of the forums were using some OP build they copied from a streamer. I guess all the people saying "git good" and that the game wasn't difficult just actually meant "copy a build". Last edited by Weaver#3527 on Dec 12, 2024, 10:37:50 AM	Posted by Weaver#3527 on Dec 12, 2024, 10:36:13 AM Quote this Post