Cold Chronomancer Megathread. All content cleared. Leveling guide added. Low-budget build added.

Started using POB. Triggered spells cannot be calculated yet. I wanted to compare which nodes are best so I just used self-cast Comet with the support gems just like what my CoC Comet has. I noticed that when configured to attack a pinnacle boss (which is what really only matters when looking at DPS), Cold Pen (or Lightning Pen) gives the most DPS per node. It's actually significantly higher compared to Spell Dmg or Ele Dmg:



This is for Ele Dmg:



Thoughts from the Chronomasters? Is there a cap on ele pen? Does it stack with curse and exposure?

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Bakokang#3499 wrote:

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Started using POB. Triggered spells cannot be calculated yet. I wanted to compare which nodes are best so I just used self-cast Comet with the support gems just like what my CoC Comet has. I noticed that when configured to attack a pinnacle boss (which is what really only matters when looking at DPS), Cold Pen (or Lightning Pen) gives the most DPS per node. It's actually significantly higher compared to Spell Dmg or Ele Dmg:



This is for Ele Dmg:



Thoughts from the Chronomasters? Is there a cap on ele pen? Does it stack with curse and exposure?

Penetration in poe 2 doesn't stack with -res and can't go below 0.
Almost useless on bosses under conductivity/exposures. Well, it's still can do a thing for cold damage, but that very small % damage increase.
Useful only on mapping with +ele res mods, where u won't cast curse/exposure on every single trash mob.

Oh that is most unfortunate. Would have been a huge damage boost if they'd stack. Not that we need more damage.

Ok I enabled Curse (Conductivity) and Exposure (by subtracting 20 res to Cold and Lightning) to a pinnacle boss. Lightning Pen nodes no longer light up when highlighting node power. But, Cold Pen still will work since our curse only reduces Lightning Res. I've yet to check if they are worth taking, but if they are along the way, they might be worth considering.

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monik390#5560 wrote:

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Serwyn#6318 wrote:

By the way, does spell echo on coc comet cost mana twice?

No, Spell Echo has 150% mana multiplier and that's it. Comets can blend in each other, so it might be 2 casts instead of 1, targeted at the same point.

Anyway, I ran some bosses, and I see no real practical difference between bomb and bolt here.

Damage output is the same, regardless of how many comets were triggered by wall detonation, we get a crapload of energy from bosses. And we can't summon more comets than our mana pool can offer.
Be it at once, or in a sequence.

In theory, yes, I get why you are looking for the perfect solution.
And it might matter early, when we don't have enough damage to trigger CoC on each sneeze. Later won't matter at all.

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Rannithelich#6202 wrote:

Changing my anoint from Heartstopping to Dynamism brings down my crit chance on skills to the following:

Frostbolt: 51.72% to 48.72%
Frost Wall: 47.41% to 44.66%
Comet: 64.65% to 60.9%

Are these numbers fine?

Also, is Melting Maelstrom useable on this build? I don't own one yet though, just wondering if it has a weird interaction on this build hence why I don't see it on some of the planners here.

Technically, we don't need more than 60% crit chance on comet.

About mana flask, I don't have it. Can't say. If it works for us - it's top tier.


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Anyway, I'm starting to work on low-budget things.

That makes perfect sense. It would also open a ring slot and simplify the build though.
Of course, ideal world we have dream fragment and ingenuity. With ingenuity, you probably don't want to spend a ring slot on snakepit.

How hard/easy is to kill Trial of Sekhemas boss with Desperate Alliance relic and average amount of boons?

yeah, spell echo on bomb or coc comet is a ????

might depend on your specific gear level/setup.

I am using bomb as my primary. spell echo goes on bomb for me.
the extra aoe size on its second hit. great.
double hitting in the first place. massive damage on call.
without archmage the echo might be needed to pop walls. this depends on how much +damage you have versus +skills. as +skills will increase damage, but also wall life.

Can even double hit walls sometimes. if you are spamming walls onto the echo.

Echo on comet. versus Bosses, walls shatter directly, and thus proc CoC, without the need for bomb. spitting out 3-6 comets in 1-2seconds that then get Echo'd would be WAY more dps then echoed frostbombs, even with a 2s cd, and using time snap.

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Bakokang#3499 wrote:

Ok I enabled Curse (Conductivity) and Exposure (by subtracting 20 res to Cold and Lightning) to a pinnacle boss. Lightning Pen nodes no longer light up when highlighting node power. But, Cold Pen still will work since our curse only reduces Lightning Res. I've yet to check if they are worth taking, but if they are along the way, they might be worth considering.

moniks build also has heavy frost.
"hits ignore non-negative resists of frozen enemies". bosses get frozen almost immediately.

Frost bombs quality is "20% increased effect of cold exposure"
strip away support is another 30% increased exposure effect.

monik is actually using Eye of Winter.
with strip away, and cold/lit exposure supports.
so, -26%.

they did redo heavy frost so that it doesn't negate negative resistances. which it was at release, so it was actively reducing your damage if you had exposure/curses.


now monik is running exposure, he might want to reconsider "overexposure".

"potent incantation" 4 points probably for sure, could be swapped.

Meanwhile, almost done with the low-budget build.

3d budget lvl 79-80 vs t15(+1): https://youtu.be/NM6vFY31z-Q

~9-10 seconds to remove 5kk boss life. Not sure if it's good or not.

Comet was with Impetus tho, forgot to switch to Conc.

Anyway, besides the wand (70ex), gloves (1d w/ Slow Magnitude, 3 ex w/o), and 3 mana on kill jewels (30+2x50ex), everything else costed 2-10ex per slot, with the Gaze (w/ Siphon), rings and sceptre for 10ex each, while clothes were 2-5ex.

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Can be done on ~1.5-2d for sure, w/o slow magnitude gloves and with weaker wand/jewels.

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I will add this build to lvling maxroll later, after I'm done with the trialmaster.

The build is fully operational gimped af version of my main. Mechanically, almost everything is the same (no maligaros ofc).

Also will check Xesht, but I'm not sure if it can handle >4/8.

Btw, <1d budget is viable, but only with Frost Bomb. Frostbolt/Snakepit were my next-tier upgrades.

After that I will make a proper all-in-one PoB, so can finally be free from maxroll. And this game, for some time.

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Sainako#4280 wrote:

How hard/easy is to kill Trial of Sekhemas boss with Desperate Alliance relic and average amount of boons?

It just makes him a proper pinnacle boss, like max difficulty Xesht/Arbiter. Nothing special.

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Casia#1093 wrote:

moniks build also has heavy frost.

Funny fact, but I found Pandemonius to be quite good for the amulet slot before Everlasting Gaze. That 75% cold pen right before act 1 cruel boss and up to the Archmage switch (lvl 75) was really good and saved me Heavy Frost point.

How do you make so much comets?