POE 2 early access paywall

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neohongkong#0222 wrote:

meanwhile POE charge you money for stash tab, which very unlikely to have 4 tab to beat uber elder

Pretty trivial if you know what your doing, which has nothing to do with stash tabs :p

I do think its fair to say you really should spend $20-$30 on stash tabs to enjoy PoE like a relatively normal player but it is disingenuous to say it isn't free it isn't some scumbag f2p phone game or usual f2p release where pieces are cut off/hidden/paywalled etc.

A free player can get 40/40, kill Ubers, do Aul, delve to 4k, Sanctum an original sin literally everything a player who bought some stash tabs can do they just have to do more inventory management bs.

Which is made easier by the fact almost everything that drops is worthless lmao

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Gopstop22#6572 wrote:

maybe learn what free to play means

That is rather ironic.

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Draegnarrr#2823 wrote:

A free player can get 40/40, kill Ubers, do Aul, delve to 4k, Sanctum an original sin literally everything a player who bought some stash tabs can do they just have to do more inventory management bs.

That is essentially what pay2win means. Overcoming a challenge or making it more accessible with real money. That is why stash tabs are, in fact, borderline pay2win.

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Draegnarrr#2823 wrote:

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neohongkong#0222 wrote:

meanwhile POE charge you money for stash tab, which very unlikely to have 4 tab to beat uber elder

Pretty trivial if you know what your doing, which has nothing to do with stash tabs :p

I do think its fair to say you really should spend $20-$30 on stash tabs to enjoy PoE like a relatively normal player but it is disingenuous to say it isn't free it isn't some scumbag f2p phone game or usual f2p release where pieces are cut off/hidden/paywalled etc.

A free player can get 40/40, kill Ubers, do Aul, delve to 4k, Sanctum an original sin literally everything a player who bought some stash tabs can do they just have to do more inventory management bs.

Which is made easier by the fact almost everything that drops is worthless lmao

the 4 tab behind is the cripple in trade , which most POE experience is based on.


POE is basically free, just not so many people can reach end game if you are cripple.


Don't tell me join a guild and they feed item to you to ease the cripple on trade

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BaumisMagicalWorld#0673 wrote:

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Gopstop22#6572 wrote:

maybe learn what free to play means

That is rather ironic.

nothing ironic about it

You people are tripping.

Spending at most some entry level support pack worth of money is not pay2win - you still have to put in the hours to fill those tabs with something worthwhile. There are players who spend Thousands, Tens of thousands on mobile games for extra resources - THAT is pay2win, [Removed by Support]

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AlvinL_#4492 wrote:

Spending at most some entry level support pack worth of money is not pay2win - you still have to put in the hours to fill those tabs with something worthwhile.

Uh... nobody said that?

We don't have to argue about everything that is being said on here, but just to clarify: the definition of pay2win is that a player can gain an advantage over other players by spending real money. Stash tabs allow you to do that. There's no if, but, maybe or whatever about it. They save time and item space.

"More inventory management" is exactly the type of argument you can't make when talking about pay2win. This game has an active economy. Time is money. And if you need to spend more time sorting out stash and inventory, it is irrelevant whether or not you can clear all content. Pay2win isn't only about accessability of content. Advantage is advantage.

That's all I'm gonna say on this topic because this thread isn't about stash tabs. Feel free to make a new one and we can talk about stash tabs there.

There will be PLENTY of players playing Early Access to test all the features, so why would GGG want to make it free to lure players who make zero research on what Early Access is and then complain about how unfinished the game is?

In this case, I believe Early Access paywall is indeed a good thing because we know it is not a cash grab or scam. If someone has an issue with it, there are like 1000 great games to play in the meantime.

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Waiden#9514 wrote:

There will be PLENTY of players playing Early Access to test all the features, so why would GGG want to make it free to lure players who make zero research on what Early Access is and then complain about how unfinished the game is?

In this case, I believe Early Access paywall is indeed a good thing because we know it is not a cash grab or scam. If someone has an issue with it, there are like 1000 great games to play in the meantime.

There is much in what you say but why market the game as Free to Play when it clearly is not? It has a 30 usd price tag at the moment and will be discounted to 0 dollars in half a year to a year.

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Ispita#4020 wrote:

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Waiden#9514 wrote:

There will be PLENTY of players playing Early Access to test all the features, so why would GGG want to make it free to lure players who make zero research on what Early Access is and then complain about how unfinished the game is?

In this case, I believe Early Access paywall is indeed a good thing because we know it is not a cash grab or scam. If someone has an issue with it, there are like 1000 great games to play in the meantime.

There is much in what you say but why market the game as Free to Play when it clearly is not? It has a 30 usd price tag at the moment and will be discounted to 0 dollars in half a year to a year.

PoE 2 will be free to play when it releases. Early access is not the release.