Chat GPT is the best thing to happen to this game for New Players
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This thread should be kept open as a progressively more difficult turing test. It's immediately obvious which replies are written by chat GPT as they're completely devoid of any humanity and read like a sales pitch or a synopsis. This will change with time though, and so it would be interesting to see when AI can start to incorporate small grammatical mistakes and emulate perspective, etc.
I'm struggling to come up with new goals to keep me playing this game.
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" "it's immediately obvious which replies are written by chat gpt" — honestly, i doubt that. you're just making assumptions based on your expectations of what an AI response should sound like. you want to believe you can spot AI because it's "devoid of humanity" or whatever, but in reality, you're just fooling yourself into thinking you can always tell the difference. maybe you're catching some posts, but i doubt you can catch all of them. this whole "turing test" thing you're suggesting sounds more like a guessing game than anything truly meaningful. also about "small grammatical mistakes": there’s a lot of people out there who write with those mistakes naturally. just because someone writes like that doesn’t mean they’re any more human, or that an AI isn't capable of doing the same. look at some of the post earlier in the thread from jsuslak313. are you saying that’s not a bot because it’s not perfectly written? doesn't make much sense. guessing which posts are AI because of "sales pitch language" or lack of "humanity" feels like you're just oversimplifying the issue. i mean, i've seen human posts here that are way more soulless than anything chatgpt could come up with.
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None of that was written by myself. I dont know why it specifically lashed out on "jsuslak313" i didnt told it to do that.
Also for fun, one of my favorite thing to do with ChatGPT: " Last edited by BimboBoy1994 on Sep 14, 2024, 4:01:26 AM
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Most of chatgpt's responses regarding poe are completely wrong. I tried to force it to make a build from scratch before, and it was totally clueless about the game
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" did they get info from fandom or those jibbish from the fake guide in the rmt sites, or just made it up? This is the start of forum signature: I am not a GGG employee. About the username: Did you know Kowloon Gundam is made in Neo Hong Kong?
quote from the first page: "Please post one thread per issue, and check the forum for similar posts first" This is the end of forum signature |
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" Honestly this tipped it's hand more than anything. Only on real debate forums would I see a reference to an earlier post (particularly without a quote) outside of 'gotchas'. The super odd punctuation is the other hallmark, using comas, quotes and not a single spelling error, but never capitalizing anything. While I'm not opposed to tools to help players, GPT is a pale cry from just a person talking about the game. And upside, someone gets a job out of it that way. |
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AI is lying.
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chatgpt is not goodf to make builds or strats for you, it just gathers info from internet from what i understand and provide it in form of text or something
i wouldnt trust an AI to make game for me or builds, besides i think this can border cheating [img]https://imgur.com/a/GRkTKl6[/img]
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" AI can only replicate things it picked up on before, never innovate. It can jumble up information and there's a whole feedback loop thing going on with AI generated content being fed into AI as well. There've been reports that ChatGPT is actually getting dumber over time which is hilarious to me The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
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" «Very text heavy» ? Any examples ? (And the «more/increased» is a bad example, since the game's own tutorial / Help Pages explain that part, quite early on.) But yeah, I can see how a Large Language Model could be helpful for a new player as a second step : after the basic tutorial pages, but before wikis, and forums, and especially PoB. After all, most people give up before even Act 2 ! However, that information has to be taken from somewhere (in this case, the Open Web), and so if LLMs are used too much, they won't be able to scrap those questions by new players threads (or wiki Talk pages) any more, since they won't exist ! (EDIT :ninjaed...) P.S.: Saying that PoE1 is similar to D4 in terms of complexity for new players to get into the game (so ~first half of the campaign in both) : you must be kidding, right ? Meanwhile, in PoE1 : First time Path of Exile when... yeah I'm good Yes, in PoE1 too (unlike in some of other game genres out there) you can just «wing it» your first time(s), and you'll probably even manage until at least Dominus/Kaom/Innocence... but that's not the issue. Last edited by BlueTemplar85 on Sep 15, 2024, 9:20:57 AM
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" Josh actually makes a very good point here. Basic game design issues that could be avoided. I remember from way back when, as people were introducing it to others, the most common immediate reaction was confusion. It looks like bloat to someone who has not yet found footing in this game. Which is a fundamental problem. EDIT: Actually, a comment by a user in that video's comment section imo put it pretty well: " Win 11, RTX 4080, i7-13700K, 32GB DDR5-6000, 7000 MB/s SSD, 4k Ultra ------------------------------------------------------ If PoE 2 has no CWDT builds, I will quit for good. Last edited by BaumisMagicalWorld on Sep 15, 2024, 10:10:47 AM
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