PoE Overlay vs Awakened? Help a returning player!

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Coconutdoggy wrote:

Awakened ToS? I'd be banned like 30 times by now LOL don't spread that lie or anything similar to it.

Yo entire STREAMER genre would be banned.

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

if you msg GGG they will tell you that they dont recommend using ANY third party tools. so its use at your own risk. people have been banned for it. just because not everyone gets banned doesnt mean its safe to use

personally i dont use any. not worth the risk of losing my account

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Lyutsifer665 wrote:

people have been banned for it.

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Phrazz wrote:

As others have said; you will not get banned for USING Awakened PoE, but you can get banned for ABUSING it, as it does offer some mechanics that can send a large amount of requests to the server. But regular use? You're safe.

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Phrazz wrote:

As others have said; you will not get banned for USING Awakened PoE, but you can get banned for ABUSING it, as it does offer some mechanics that can send a large amount of requests to the server. But regular use? You're safe.

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tsunamikun wrote:

no, you don't get banned for using awakened. and you never were. its described quite clearly in the ToS what kind of action are illegal and which are not. The standard functions of awakened are just macros that either trigger one action which you must actively start with one action yourself or scan the API on pathofexile.com/trade which is outside the scope of the client anyway.
The overlay is just a nifty way to talk with the API, you could just use our browser too, there is actually no difference from POEs view.

So please stop pushing your wrong FUD to players who don't know better.

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AintCare wrote:

During my convo about this with GGG they stated, very vaguely as its tradition, that any tool or overlay that gives 'unfair advantage' is against ToS.... seeing how widely this can be interpreted I prefer to be on the safe side.

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innervation wrote:

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tsunamikun wrote:

no, you don't get banned for using awakened. and you never were. its described quite clearly in the ToS what kind of action are illegal and which are not. The standard functions of awakened are just macros that either trigger one action which you must actively start with one action yourself or scan the API on pathofexile.com/trade which is outside the scope of the client anyway.
The overlay is just a nifty way to talk with the API, you could just use our browser too, there is actually no difference from POEs view.

So please stop pushing your wrong FUD to players who don't know better.

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AintCare wrote:

During my convo about this with GGG they stated, very vaguely as its tradition, that any tool or overlay that gives 'unfair advantage' is against ToS.... seeing how widely this can be interpreted I prefer to be on the safe side.

Nah its expressly spelled out in 7c and unlike what tsunamikun is saying its not just 'the client' that is in scope of the ToS, they include 'the website, the materials, and the services' with the website being the website, of course. The materials being the game and the services being the API among other things.

7. Restrictions: Under no circumstances, without the prior written approval of Grinding Gear Games, may you:

c. Utilise any automated software or 'bots' in relation to your access or use of the Website, Materials or Services.

from https://www.pathofexile.com/legal/terms-of-use-and-privacy-policy

It could not be more clear and straightforward. No interpretation needed.