[3.25] CWDT Ward Loop Scion

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nhocon wrote:

hi ! here my pob : https://pastebin.com/Q8Ftdfz6 . did i missing something ?please check my pob . i think my build cast speed still slow and my life is less ,

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Hakairo wrote:

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nhocon wrote:

hi ! here my pob : https://pastebin.com/Q8Ftdfz6 . did i missing something ?please check my pob . i think my build cast speed still slow and my life is less ,

your life is way too low to trigger CWDT constantly. get more HP

Edit: you not only have low life, but also high level of CWDT, requiring you to deal even more damage to yourself, meaning you need even more HP (or lower level CWDT)

These numbers and levels are pointed out in the guide for a reason.

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Hakairo wrote:

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Eonzo wrote:

Thanks for the replies ^^

With hard to start i mean I have to weapon swap back and forth quite a bit trying to kick it into action so to speak before it starts looping, might also be me a bit to slow on the weapon swap as I dont want to lose all my hp :P

Will look for a new chest and colour my weapon and try it out during the day!

regarding your HP, you did some mistakes, or at least one. You HP bubble should not move an inch or only a tiny bit. You took the wrong survival jewel You need survival secrets. otherwise you actively lower your HP pool.

Survival secrets lowers the Ward reduction of Olroth, so you have "more" ward while its active. The whole idea is that you do not really damage yourself, since your Ward just sucks all the damage up, but the damage sucked up by Ward still counts towards Cast when damage taken.

But if your ward is way too low, e.g. if you use the wrong jewel, you actively damage your HP and therefore lowering your effective health pool immensely, depending on some factors.

Additionally if you deal more damage to yourself than your ward can handle, damage over time effects are able to kill you and maps with less life regen become deadly. So the BEST case is to deal less damage to yourself than your amount of ward. Check the calculator and in best case the forbidden rite damage is lower than your ward with olroths active.

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nhocon wrote:

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Hakairo wrote:

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nhocon wrote:

hi ! here my pob : https://pastebin.com/Q8Ftdfz6 . did i missing something ?please check my pob . i think my build cast speed still slow and my life is less ,

your life is way too low to trigger CWDT constantly. get more HP

Edit: you not only have low life, but also high level of CWDT, requiring you to deal even more damage to yourself, meaning you need even more HP (or lower level CWDT)

These numbers and levels are pointed out in the guide for a reason.

Thank you for answering me, so how many Life I need to run with my build? I have replaced CWDT Level 20 in the armor with CWDT Level 19. Is that okay? Do I do anything else?

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IwaseTakuya wrote:

Looking at the top players from poe.ninja, I noticed most people are only using 2 to dust jewels.

Can someone let me know how this is working?

https://poe.ninja/challenge/builds/char/%EC%AD%88%EB%A6%AC%EB%AA%BD/%EC%A7%80%EA%B8%88%EB%8F%84%EB%AA%B0%EB%9D%BC%EC%9A%94%EB%8F%84%EB%8C%80%EC%B2%B4%EB%AD%90%EC%97%90%EC%9A%94?i=3&search=class%3DAscendant%26skill%3DIce-Spear%2CFreezing-Pulse%26sort%3Ddps

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leslisone2 wrote:

hello, so far i think my setup is doing pretty well (not too sure if i hit 5 cast/s) and i am considering upgrading to divergent cwdt for a rare ring slot

i would like to check if my calculations and assumptions are correct if lets say i use a 20/23 divergent cwdt on my skin of the lords chest

cwdt lv 20+2 with 23q
damage taken needed to proc:
3950 x 0.77 = 3041.5

damage taken need to proc after lv 11 skele
3041.5 - (3x420) = 1801.5 ≈ 1802

life needed for loop to start
1801.5/0.4/1.6 = 2814.84 ≈ 2815

BUT even if i have 2815 life, am i correct to say that i need a minimum of 1802 ward during olroth's so that i do not take damage from my life pool?

thanks in advance