Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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davidnn5 wrote:

According to a no-lifer with a trade-centric philosophy, things are fine! As long as this person gets good items, very few other people should, despite whatever effort they make.


I spend most of my time trading, and contrary to popular belief, this nerf isn't just going to hurt the casuals. I'd like to see who the no-lifers think will buy their gear and boss kills when half the casuals are gone.
Last edited by Karcaroth#3263 on Mar 15, 2021, 4:05:20 AM
I love this game, but this change... I dont want to run around with s.th gear, without the chance to improve it. I have 3-4 hours a day to play. I think, this is already a bit much. I have a full time job, i have to do another things in my real life. I can not play more, because it is not my job. If only the full time players can do good items, i wont play. I already found an another ARPG with DETERMINSTIC crafting system. Check ZiggyD chanel for it.
Fix your crafting system, or you will lose players. Nobody want to slam exalts. Its a RNG clown fiesta. What do you think? I farm for an item two weeks, and I slam ex on it? :D JOKE.

Furthermore: you just can't be trusted. This leauge: i farmed off my ass, to have the atlas points to be able to farm harvest with zana in lex proxima. And... ninja nerf. You know what I am talking about. What kind of business model is that? Its a lie. Its a scam. I do the work and i dont get the reward. Your game is not rewarding. I dont trust you anymore. You give us something, we are happy, we invest time and money (supporting your work) and no reward for it. That is enough for me.
Last edited by Albundy_84#7604 on Mar 15, 2021, 4:49:37 AM
I think the lack of comment from GGG is appalling, sat there in their Ivory tower, they don't give a damn about their player-base. It's why I bought last epoch yesterday and once this league is over, I will split my time between that and other games. I refuse to support GGG any longer, so out of touch and do not care. And before any smarty-pants says I have no supporter packs, I support the game with mtx I chose, the packs often have things in I don't care about.

Anyone who wants harvest removed has a vested interest only. Why would people having access to a semi decent crafting system, hurt any of the no-lifers? It's essentially a non-competive, single player game. The ONLY reason it bothers them, is there has been less demand for their over-priced crafted items. They are purely being selfish, and greedy. Me being able to tweak my gear has zero impact on another players enjoyment of the game, other than I dont need to buy gear from them at a marked-up price.

Harvest in its current state, is still extremely grind, and rng based. I used 5 lightning rolls on my helm over the last few days, the highest roll was 17%. Getting all t1 rolls is not a formality, it often costs dozens of rolls, and if you are trading, that equates to dozens of ex, an amount that already excludes alot of players. Stop saying Harvest creates op items, it allows good items to be made easier, but it's still not easy. The 1%ers running around with the 6xt1 gear have used hundreds of crafts for their gear. You take Harvest away, they'll still do it next league, it will just take them bit longer and cost them a bit more. Harveat nerfs hurt the common player.

GGG get your heads out of your bottoms, and do a community-wide poll, make it so that when you log in, the poll is there to answer, dispelling any doubt about only vocal minorities having a say then. You won't do this though, you know what the answer will be, and that goes against your Overlords game philosophy. The philosophy that is massively outdated now.

Last epochs crafting system is amazing, they're getting my money from now on.

GGG have the decency to address your customers. I think you sometimes forget thats what the players are. Do that poll...

Just because there are no viable competitors now doeant mean their won't be soon, you cant carry on abusing your customers indefinitely, it will come back to bite you when something good comes out.
Last edited by IcedInferno007#3962 on Mar 15, 2021, 4:46:17 AM
Unless the next league has the most insane league mechanic of all time - its a skip
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Karcaroth wrote:
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davidnn5 wrote:

According to a no-lifer with a trade-centric philosophy, things are fine! As long as this person gets good items, very few other people should, despite whatever effort they make.


I spend most of my time trading, and contrary to popular belief, this nerf isn't just going to hurt the casuals. I'd like to see who the no-lifers think will buy their gear and boss kills when half the casuals are gone.


The problem is it won't really hurt the no-livers and it also would probably not hurt the newer players that have not much knowledge of the game. All people inbetween will be hurt more or less. Funny point is, that if less people play after this, this might hurt the streamer part of the no-livers, because this also would mean less people watching their content. But because GGG did do nerfes in the past and the playerbase did not significantly shrink - they might not see this as a risk, because if it does not shrink they profit because people will view their "cool" stuff.
Sincerely, TFT is the best I have found to buy and sell in poe, as it has been said previously, it has a reputation system that minimally gives security when trading, apart from any account or character that steals, it is reported and placed in the list of undesirables to try to prevent new thefts, at least in front of users who use tft, likewise GGG sweats olympically from the players when they steal objects regardless of whether the player has been reported for stealing several times, you can continue "playing with all the peace of mind "I honestly will not use poe's trade chat system again, as long as the thieves go unpunished ^ _ ^w
WOW 400+ pages and no responce from Chris
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Syhler187 wrote:
WOW 400+ pages and no responce from Chris


Oh, my sweet summer child...
Ignorance is bliss when it's not fatal.
Oblivion is the fate of all things.
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davidnn5 wrote:
I'd like to see who the no-lifers think will buy their gear and boss kills when half the casuals are gone.


I honestly didn't intend to stop playing before this league even ended, but here we are. I just can't play this game any more - all of my ggg-induced plans and dreams are dashed, and I'm left looking at multiple 100-exalt investments (works in progress) that are utterly worthless now. These huge investments in effort, time, and currency were just too quick, easy, and cheap you see - game breaking.

You can't use a "forbidden" game mechanic that you know will be popular, in order to manipulate players to play more, and then take it away when your needs are different.

We won't stand for that.
Last edited by Obright#1785 on Mar 15, 2021, 8:24:09 AM
This is so wrong, we loved harvest so much, we didn't deserve this update...

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