Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

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TyrannicalBearD wrote:

Chris's opinion seems to have changed dramatically since this video...
https://youtu.be/HZqxIteqKaQ?t=4407

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The game isnt my game any more, its the players game.....I can't just come in and say nah this isnt my vision we're getting rid of it, because then we'll have no players left.

“TIMES CHANGE...”
I hope these blind devs and twitch welfare babies fade away along with the game.

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Ashen_Shugar_IV wrote:

Meh. Might as well add my 2cents to this shitheap.

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Joined: Feb 17, 2013

Since that date I have farmed, traded, spent, or otherwise accumulated literally thousands of exalts. Despite that not-insignificant volume I am averaging less than 1 exalt slam per year.

That's less than 8 exalt slams in my entire poe career. Slams just aren't a good value proposition.

Played for 5 years+ never slammed an exalt even when i didnt know better... because you can easily tell its gonna be garbage.
I still dont understand why GGG dont want to move away from this horrible out of date crafting system.

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I_NO wrote:

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Graas Hoppa wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

What nerfs? I can make the same exact items as I will slightly harder sure I can literally make the same OP items without a sweat because I know how to play the game and I know harvest is OP AF still but unfortunately you apparently can't do that and go harvest is dead.

See that's hilarious go on make tantrums it won't make you learn any better on how to make items even when harvest is still as powerful.

exactly... you can!

doesn't mean other people can too!

yadi dadi dada

just in case this does not get noticed i would like to point out you have edited the original comment so it would not mention you are a 1%er. smooth sir

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I_NO wrote:

No they can too but once more you're throwing tantrums and don't wanna learn. It's the same thing slightly harder sure but nothing will change and that's the best part.

Blowing this out of proportion when people can still make there items just as powerful.

That's right, keep buying those MTX from GGG and trying to make them feel good about themselves. Nobody in their right mind agrees with you and it's going to be hilarious when they either cave in and you quit because other folks can gear up now, or you have nobody left to play with.

But yeah, I already voted with my wallet. I opted to walk off and explore my venues.

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Miraille wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

No they can too but once more you're throwing tantrums and don't wanna learn. It's the same thing slightly harder sure but nothing will change and that's the best part.

Blowing this out of proportion when people can still make there items just as powerful.

That's right, keep buying those MTX from GGG and trying to make them feel good about themselves. Nobody in their right mind agrees with you and it's going to be hilarious when they either cave in and you quit because other folks can gear up now, or you have nobody left to play with.

But yeah, I already voted with my wallet. I opted to walk off and explore my venues.

Oh no you voted with your wallet what will they do :( how will they ever live with themselves.

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I_NO wrote:

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Miraille wrote:

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I_NO wrote:

No they can too but once more you're throwing tantrums and don't wanna learn. It's the same thing slightly harder sure but nothing will change and that's the best part.

Blowing this out of proportion when people can still make there items just as powerful.

That's right, keep buying those MTX from GGG and trying to make them feel good about themselves. Nobody in their right mind agrees with you and it's going to be hilarious when they either cave in and you quit because other folks can gear up now, or you have nobody left to play with.

But yeah, I already voted with my wallet. I opted to walk off and explore my venues.

Oh no you voted with your wallet what will they do :( how will they ever live with themselves.

-.-

Actualy "vote with your wallet" does work... maybe not if 1-2 person does it but if many more does it will... i myself have decided never to spend any more money on path of exile or any game GGG ever makes. and good thing is there is better alternatives coming soon i can spend my money on.

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Snipemaster wrote:

Actualy "vote with your wallet" does work... maybe not if 1-2 person does it but if many more does it will... i myself have decided never to spend any more money on path of exile or any game GGG ever makes. and good thing is there is better alternatives coming soon i can spend my money on.

Sure but what's it going to do in the long run? Nothing not a single dent will be made.

Harvest was the best addition to the game in years. It kept me playing this league longer than usually because crafting finally felt rewarding. I don't know to whom GGG wants to cater by nerfing it to the gound instead of making trading those crafts more accessible but I sure as hell won't spend a dime for the game anytime soon.

I was pretty satisfied at the beginning of this league with the content especially because it gave me a reliable way of improving my gear by farming specific parts of the content and without relying upon too many trades (which I leave to uniques only).

Harvest is (in my plan) the only way to perfect items for my build at the end of the league. That what I use it for. We are two/thirds of the league in and I used ONE harvest crafting to get a decent item that I would have had to otherwise buy from another player. I play 2-3 hours per day almost every day. Does one craft every 60 days of play seem too much to GGG?

Is a bunch of players abusing Harvest to create insane items? Yes. Like every league regardless of the content of the game. The only difference is that with Harvest you don't need 1000+Exalts to gamble and generate more Exalts, now everyone can create items of great value that they can use or sell using proper crafting and not gambling.

I can't talk for the whole community but I am sure that there are much more people like me that will just be negatively impacted by this decision which will have just the final effect of alienate players since GGG's "crafting" system sucks because it is just gambling. Harvest is the actual crafting method with Fossils crafting being something in between.

GGG, you had run your math and checked your data so I really hope you know what you are doing because the community seems quite outraged right now and it is from them that depends on your future (and your salaries).

Peace.

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Boncko wrote:

Instead of removing the good crafts, You could make it cost valuable currency, depending on the type of craft. Also make those craft more rare.

For example:
Add specific mod = 15 Exalted orbs to use the craft.
Remove specific mod = 30 Annulment orbs to use
Remove non-specific, add specific = 5 Annulment and 5 Exalted orbs to use
Remove specific, add specific = 20 Annulment and 10 Exalted orbs to use

Also make those craft either more convenient to trade, without having to risk scamming, or opposite - not tradeable at all (I am sure it could be figured out somehow)

Another step is to remove harvest passives so players wont be forced to farm maps only in one region.

This could work much better imo than removing it from game - now a lot of players already crafted their gg items and those that did not yet because they were unlucky or/and SSF league will not be able to catch up ever.

Your proposition will expose half of this thread.Because they actually want their items for FREE