Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

Hi GGG,

This is my first post in the response to your changes in the future.

Please keep this Harvest system so a casual player like me can still afford some funny build.

The game economic system rest at each league. most of the time I want a build that can reach the end-game content like legion boss encounter.

Harvest makes it easier for a casual player can get their hands to certain high-end builds without put too much time into farming currency.

Please don't change the harvest system.

Felt abs amazing to build my custom MOM skele mage agnostic and take it to lvl 100, thanks to harvest, alot of playing crafting and planning

First 36 First lvl 100 this league hooked me


I understand harvest may be too powerfull as it is

but really the feeling you can finally take youre custom crap to work is amazing
Again that wasn't EZ and took alot of effort (like a lot)

I like variety in this game but I also want a somewhat effective/nice chara to play if I try all league to improve it

as we all know trying to be creative prior to harvest will almost end-up in a crappy chara you will not able to work with after 95 (if u good) - while you spent a lot on (slamming around I guess)


There is so much variety in the game but here we go building around the same broken meta mecanics because it's the only way around late game at a decent EX mark

The variety for possibility IG is out of this world and so meaningless at the same time

Like you have 12 000 pizzas on the menu but only 6 are good and affordable



(i take a carrion golem without onions tyvm)

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demondisguise wrote:

Boy, Harvest must be really great if majority of players quit over a simple seed mechanic. I think what you probably wanted to mention was the Garden setup.

My point was that the best retention leagues typically introduce new endgame content and probably had nothing to do with Harvest. Uber elder, Conquerors of the atlas, Maven, etc.

End game retention?

On simple question. Is now Bestiary best than it was in this league or not? Thats the point.

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Sparkyrino wrote:

Oh, dont worry they listen... just not to you.

So much whining about not being able to get your powerfull items. Cant do anything without them right? Too lazy to to learn mechanics of the boss?

Yeah, items are one of the pillars of an aRpg.

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Sparkyrino wrote:

To lazy to know how to earn exalts? Want only insta kill with 100 mil dps?

You talk like harvest crafts were handed out for free. It costs 8-10ex on avg just to get T1 res.

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Sparkyrino wrote:

Game was totally fine in delirium. But now you are so dissatisfied with it. What happened?

The game got better! They added features a lot of folks like and now they want to cut it out because....? why?

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Sparkyrino wrote:

If ggg would make this game like you want it to be it'd become another D3.

Harvest makes this game more like D3? Realy, sir?

So basicallly.... you just killed harvest? :D

No one uses non-influenced items these days (except for uniques)

Guess we'll have to see if it's still going to be somewhat useful.

Seems like the Discord issue is still unaddressed even though it is the biggest complaint about Harvest from a player standpoint.

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pedromozart__ wrote:

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demondisguise wrote:

Boy, Harvest must be really great if majority of players quit over a simple seed mechanic. I think what you probably wanted to mention was the Garden setup.

My point was that the best retention leagues typically introduce new endgame content and probably had nothing to do with Harvest. Uber elder, Conquerors of the atlas, Maven, etc.

End game retention?

On simple question. Is now Bestiary best than it was in this league or not? Thats the point.

Huh?

This change is silly at best. by the time a 'casual' player has enough currency to purchase lets say a 50 exalt item...the league is over.


The current crafting mechanic makes it SEMI doable to solo craft.
(only 10 slots to store crafts)


If you make these changes as planned, you have to make unlimited craft storage.

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I_NO wrote:

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CyBeas7 wrote:

Umm... The simple fix is to just make craft's untradeable. Is it really that hard to figure out?

Economy based game ''Untradable'' Really now?

What he said makes a lot of sense. Harvest crafting has gone beserk this league because people sell their crafts from stations.

If you cannot sell your crafts anymore but would have to use them yourself it should solve every problem. People can still make their items great but for personal use only. Not being able to sell harvest crafted items would be fair. You could still play the game with YOUR items on YOUR build. You just arent gonna make a speed farmer, run 5000maps and sell crafts all day printing mirrors.

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pedromozart__ wrote:

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demondisguise wrote:

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casevil669 wrote:

Have you looked at player retention this league GGG? What do you think is the reason behind it being one of the best? Ritual?

Probably had something to do with Maven?

Did you see player retention in Harvest league?

With “fun” seeds mechanics?
Are you joking?

Most of the people I know who played this league were most excited about the Maven because of the harvest crafting options she offered anyway. I was definitely excited about the possibility of her coming to core for that same reason, mainly.

And while seed obtaining was a pain before, it was nice to be able to set up a plot of vivid thornweavers with some blossoms, and actually get some decent speed crafts for my time, effort (and exalts), rather than endlessly farming for nothing.

I also agree that the simplicity of current harvest crafting is nice, but these new changes will break it, rendering it completely worthless for players like me.