Development Manifesto: Harvest Crafting

+1 This is on Point.

I played this Game for over 16.000 hours and the Game never felt better since 3.13.

I just can´t go back to pre 3.13 crafting system. It feels so wrong.

Standard was never so alive since 3.13, and damn i saw really bad times with like 4 people online from 100 people in Standard during some temp leagues.

Since 3.13 there were always 20-30 People online in Standard.

Chris...Why? I am so sad.

I hope some day you change your mind about the RNG Crafting System.

You gave the Poe community a taste of determistic crafting and now you take it 100% away again? I fear this will not end well.

I really hope the Community does not fall apart and go to D2 Remastered or Last Epoch.

I hope the best for the future. For now i will be gone.

Stay well and healthy GGG Team


"
surio wrote:
+1 This is the boat a lot of us are in. Seriously, GGG. this one is the worst decisions in the series of bad decisions made over a period of time that we have had to put up with!

"
Destructicon wrote:
This is the first time I actually felt compelled to post on the forums.

GGG, these proposed changes are simply terrible. They are out of touch with the reality of how it is to actually play the game.

I have a 9 hour job, excluding weekends, when a league starts I only have about 4-6 hours per day to actually play.

I do not have the time to constantly farm the currency to craft items, the old fashioned way.

I also do not have the time to farm enough exalts to buy the best crafted items on the market.

Harvest was perfect for this. Its deterministic crafting actually gave me achievable goals to strive for to create good items.

But, even with harvest it still takes a lot of time and effort.

Your statement that its too easy to get perfect items is delusional. Even with harvest it still takes an incredible amount of time to actually find the correct harvests to make a good item as even the harvests can roll bad ones, which require further remove/adds.

Getting rid of remove + remove/add will just make it nearly impossible for those of us with limited time, due to jobs, to even consider having good items.

I am also extremely disappointed because this goes against your philosophy you talked about back when adding harvest, that you want more deterministic crafting.

The game is in the best state right now especially because of harvest. I don't want to go back to the old way of playing or crafting because the old way is just gambling.

I hate gambling, there is no skill or skill expression involved in slamming hundreds to thousands of different types of currency into an item, hoping it'll get good enough rolls to then slam more.

With the nuking of remove and remove/add mods I simply have nothing to strive for, good items are just perpetually out of reach and, honestly I'd rather just quit for good then go back to gambling, I hate gambling.
PLEASE, GGG

Harvest the way it is right now, is literally the only thing you need to keep your casual playerbase, which is pretty damn big, PLAYING!

and by casual i mean mostly people that have kids + full time jobs!

full time jobs = more money for you, right?

right!
Mods, I really want you all to take a good look at yourself and what you're becoming in this thread. Did he really say anything other than, "that gamer/streamer has a better pulse of the game and gamer sentiment at this point". what is so objectionable in that remark? there was nothing censorious in that remark! And you removed it

Please stop this, mods!

"
codagain wrote:
Chris & All GGG devs.
You should watch this Math`s video.
[Removed by Support]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pdpA_xHXhEA
The change about Heart of the Grove is actually really nice and interesting with the Upgrade of encounter Harvest in map to.
-> Maybe the fight can be use for let player drop Deterministe remove/add Orbs ?

But, i'm a little bit scare by the other change.
I start playing PoE this league, and with harvest, i was able to understand how crafting work in poe. It make crafting more easy to understand for brand new player compare to what it look like to be before.

The fact that we can use harvest crafting on non-influence item look good to.

All this change will make gear loot maybe more valuable to, so it can be interresting. Unless the price of Exalted and other orb skyrocket, because you will need it for making craft.

It's nerf the cluster jewel crafting to, hope it wont make it impossible to have proper cluster jewel for some build that are base on this.


For me, it's some nice change and some other that's look strange because it impact player from a way that make you feel you loose something nice that now only high end player will be able to do.
And it's make crafting way harder for new player, and i thinks it's sad because if harverst didn't exist i will probably never try to craft personnaly. It's to risky and not rewarding, so why spend the low amount of currency i have for nothing ?

Last edited by Drcitron#7171 on Mar 11, 2021, 3:52:23 AM
So out of touch with the playerbase it is laughable.

Did you expect anything else from people that quit playing their own game 5 years ago?
The whole point of crafting is that it IS largely deterministic. No one ever random spammed chaos orbs to create end game gear.

IMO taking the annul and augment effects from virtually all items makes the whole Harvest obsolete. Well, it's your game, not mine.
IGN: Haeresie
Last edited by Vomitorivm#3146 on Mar 11, 2021, 3:48:22 AM
Other than the supporter pack, it's how things have been for ppl like me too.

"
YersiniaD wrote:
„What drives you exile?“

„Crafting! I love crafting gear for my characters!“

„So you enjoy using an exalted orb on your items hoping to hit something useful.“

„What? No! Who in his or her right mind would ever use an exalted like that? They are used for buying items in trade or metacrafting. Slamming an item with it is just plain stupid- there are too many mods!“

Dear GGG,
imagine not using TFT. I don‘t do that for example. Trust issues. So I have a few crafting projects, none of them done because harvest is really rare enough. This league I play Standard because I don‘t play poe for a living and wanted to be able to play this sweet expansion. Harvest returns! Jippie! And the maven orb makes it even more interesting. I bought my First Supporter pack because of it.

And now this. Harvest is rare enough. The cool crafts are rare enough. TFT is the issue. I doubt that many people would have their insane items without it. Do something about that but don‘t kill the mechanic.

You leave me disappointed, sad and angry. Full of regret, too (supporter pack).

Please reconsider, I beg you.
~
Last edited by ngn#3722 on Mar 11, 2021, 11:55:29 AM
Cringe.
Don't go through with this.
Remove harvest bs alltogether or make it untradeable. I want to play trade league but not with this bs spamming or discord cancer.

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info