Wolcen Hype Release!
" I think its heavily D3 inspired. I mean, there are things that look like they come right out of D3, down to the art style. The cursed chests for example, look straight out of d3. Health globes, vanilla d3 fighting style, map, etc. I think its far more D3 vanilla than anything else. Its got smidges of PoE with a skill-tree, but thats about where that comparison ends. This seems more like a d3 vanilla mod, if blizzard allowed mods, lol. They took vanilla D3, and added some PoE/current D3 elements and hit release. |
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Wolcen was at first more unique but ever since the developers saw D3's success they decided to make a D3 clone.
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" i never said or thought that d3 and poe didnt get some inspiration from books or other sources but there`s a difference between inspiration and an obvious stolen copy. also, its not about "some" copies. i played act 1 and like all monster are from d3. the game looks like they took everything from d3 (including server issues at the start) and poe. |
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" And I dont think they cloned much of what makes D3 playable today. It honestly feels like Vanilla D3, even down to the itemization. The only thing added to the vanilla D3 experience is a map/rift system that is sorta meh, and a skill-tree. I'm 100% only playing it because its at least "new," in a sense. But I cant see this game lasting over a month or 2 in its current state, and I cant see them making it any better in that time-frame either. They have way too many bugs and things to fix. You know, I think this is the first online game I have ever played that doesnt even have chat. It literally has zero online functions. I keep wondering why I'm even attempting to play online, because the game is so buggy and exploitable that any sort of leaderboard/pvp/economy endgame they attempt to add, is going to require a wipe. Like right now, you can infinitely stack magic find. If you dont kill the boss, the magic find will carry over to the next map, so on and so forth. There was people in Early Access stacking it up to 2200%+; and that bug still exists in release. You get stuff happening like what was happening to alkaiser, where chests are spewing items. I also question any sort of anti-cheat they may have with how much trouble they are currently having. Its probably completely nonexistent. I dont see a long life-span for this game at all. Just enjoy it while its sorta fresh, clone or not. I cant see it surviving much past this. Seems like a cash-out game to me. They run out of funds in Early Access, dumped it for more, and who knows if they are going to put those funds into making the game better. |
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" I laughed hard when you pointed d3 server issues :D //memories But yeah I get your point, there are few similarities but I'm still not much astonished to be honest, just check games like League of Legend or Smite, 90% of content comes from various games, animes, and they even copied themselves in some cases wich is incredibly fun at this point. Same goes for skill tree, PoE used FFX one as base idea then went from this to obtain their result. I can imagine the FFX tree was inspired hugely by a game I don't recall* wich had a shitloads of nodes and it's going like that for kinda everything at all. PoE monsters for some of them also refer to various games in some cases. As for server issues some peoples tend to over-simplify how the whole thing work and come with rocket-science argues, it's not tied to video games it's just more visible in this field, but no this process is much more harder than "watching sales" and BAM a wild estimation appear! Ahah Give me a moment I will find a dev talk that was pretty much covering this part few years ago already, very accurate and interesting infos if it can interest anyone - Will edit post once I find it back. Hf :) Last edited by Heli0nix#0378 on Feb 15, 2020, 5:54:17 AM
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" There's no such thing as stealing in game development unless you literally copy assests from one game to another. Game development is a "standing on the shoulders of giants" thing. No need to re-invent the wheel. GGG banning all political discussion shortly after getting acquired by China is a weird coincidence.
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I'm amused by the people expecting "flawless launch" when they alpha test for free for a billion dollar company when TGGG releases a new league every 3 months and they don't say a word about how full of bugs, crashes,lag (due to overloaded servers), dc's happen..
seriously.. some of you are beyond redemption with being a true loyalist (word I'm kindly using here, not really meaning it but ToS friendly) "Parade your victories, hide your defeats. Mortals are so insecure." Once you break the cycle of fear no angels or demons can whisper you their sweet nothing words. poe2 = ruthless 2.0. Last edited by Xystre#4581 on Feb 15, 2020, 9:46:10 AM
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" Why do people keep imagining Tencent gives GGG free money? They own the company, and extract returns from that stake. They're not a charity. |
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" Do you have any idea what is going on with Wolcen? No one expected a "flawless launch," but have you seen this circus they have going? They just now did a no ETA extension to server downtime that was already 14 hours long. They have had server issues since launch thursday. They have the absolute worst bugs you can imagine in an Arpg. Character's disappearing, items and stash disappearing, progress being reset. I mean I dont know if they get worse than that. And thats not even taking into account all the crashes, the other bugs, the complete lack of any online functionality. They dont even have basic chat. I mean at this point, the only online functionality they have, is the fact you cant play your character because hes online. "flawless launch" is an understatement. This is probably one of the worst launches I have ever seen. Its almost perfect in how terrible it is. |
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" - Characters diseapearing and stash wipe is something countless games suffered on release including at least two hack & slash that some of you guys might have played already. - All the crashes? Completed whole story (online btw) and never encountered a single critical issue, not saying it has been smooth like that for everyone but still, doesn't seems to be that dramatic. - Lack of any online functionality? You can trade and play in 4 players co-op, tested during bêta it was good enough, what did you expected? An AH, some testing dummies and hundreds of kids typing /dance in town? - It doesn't justify that dev team gets threatened, insulted, bashed for 50 hours in a row. Peoples can be upset, write reviews, ask for a refund, but this is not normal to turn this into harassment and all the worst existing things possible. Dunno, when you go in a restaurant and food end to be terrible? You just go to talk with the owners as an adult, explain them the situation and eventually ask for a refund then move on and life keep going. Why would it be different with a game? Hf :) Last edited by Heli0nix#0378 on Feb 15, 2020, 11:48:56 AM
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