Why is there no auction house in POE?
" As stated from 2010 (or even before) No, their reasons have not changed...and auction house would make things worse. Ancestral Bond. It's a thing that does stuff. -Vipermagi
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" Because WoW's AH has no price fixing! Clearly an accessable AH fixes price fixing. It's not like that is done by the few able to control supply regardless of trade medium. If anything, price fixers have an easier time doing that with an AH, at least they have to have a discord to manage things. |
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" Their reasons were extremely stupid then and extremely stupid and outdated now. There is zero reason why their can't be one. They just don't want to. |
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" No. We don't tolerate bots and drop rate nerfs. |
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This whole "encourage social interaction" argument is the dumbest of them all.
The worst part of this game is trading, and there is no real interaction, it's like dealing with NPCs that only respond 20% of the time. What a dumb argument seriously get your heads examined. |
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I'd rather have a selling stall rather than AH. When I'm about to AFK doing stuffs, or having a break from mapping or whatever, I can open my selling stall.
> Set up stall > List my item with fixed price > The trading system / process will be looks like console trading process > Stuffs get sold / players that interested in my stuffs get em. Still have to break gameplay flow, still have to stay in hideout, still requires player presence and partial control over the character, but the process of exchanging the items is automated. |
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All that arguments and stuff.
Who remembers games where there was no AH but you can buy your own vendor (Ultima)? Aka player owned vendors ... Aka legal in-built bots. You don't remember, but Internet does. |
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" Yes! This is very good because if you don't have to stay in h/o, you will earn even more currency reducing your time to progress. And it will cause nerfing drop rates again. So no! We don't need this bot house feature in the game. |
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" Yea damn all those botters because they are the ones making all the money, not the mirror service gang & group farmers xD... Also amagawd there is nothing a rich company can do against some private bot coders LOL... It's the "questionable" "logic" that the game must suck in various areas in order to make it better. Last edited by Bababutzemann#7264 on Oct 18, 2023, 9:07:27 AM
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Pretty much everyone who wants an AH has almost no understanding of the impact it would have on the game economy and fall into one of several misguided groups with the biggest being those who just sees it as a means to make buying and pricing easier. The truth is it would almost certainly cause catastrophic harm and would open up the game to more automated abuse not less.
Game economies have to deal with the issue of unlimited item generation and rapid item inflation. PoE has two main ways of combating this problem. The first is that the currency/crafting system has strong self-sinking mechanisms. The second is the the supply side is heavily limited by the need for face to face trading. In other words as things are now the supply consists of players online/willing to trade/available to trade. On top of limiting supply it also creates a time cost for the transaction that gets added to the value of items being traded and incurred as a convenience fee to the buyer. Hence why buying in bulk is more expensive not less. Adding an AH completely changes the supply side as it now consists of anyone who has posted a trade within the time frame the AH allows. So if this was for example 24 hours this could be equivalent to 10x the amount of items to buy. This increased supply would force extreme pricing competition and those online will be heavily incentivized to undercut those not online and those not consistently checking the AH to see if their prices are competitive. Lastly, because the AH provides convenient trades there would be no added value or value floor to items from time lost. Drops and farming will just rapidly lose value relative to playing the market and AH. Then there will be the 3rd party apps people will almost certainly need to have any significant chance of selling in a meaningful way. Apps that can cross reference prices, allow user set rules for pricing, auto-post/cancel trades, snipe undervalued items, etc... Websites for item/trade heat maps, trader activity to track competition, and a bunch of other seller degen stuff. tl;dr - The part people hate about face to face trade is the whole point and the reason they want an AH is why its a problem. Why? Because economics. Last edited by Hackusations#2294 on Oct 18, 2023, 1:26:38 PM
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