Templar - [3.17] Wallach's Hierophant Freezing Pulse Totems (No Further Updates) - Forum

" Quintessence wrote: " Wallach wrote: " Quintessence wrote: Well that is unfortunate, I guess all good things come to an end. I mean, I wouldn't take it to mean the build is dead or anything, but I have pretty particular goals for my own builds. I'm just not as confident this build is going to feel right by me in 3.15, so I don't want to update it and not league start it, only to find out a bunch of people are unhappy league starting it themselves. To me updating a build guide is a clear advertisement that you are confident in other players investing their time in it; I'll need to see for myself if that still feels true for FP totems going forward. It may not really be that big of a deal in the end. If you're still looking to league start this build yourself, the upside is that there's not going to actually be a ton to change at first glance. Obviously Controlled Destruction has to go, so that should leave for Increased Critical Damage or Increased Critical Strikes depending on what you do to your flasks. Flask changes I can't totally read at the moment without knowing what all of the flask buff orbs are capable of on the unique flasks. Otherwise there's no real item changes or anything to mess with, so the build is still mostly a known quality. If you run into single target boss damage issues (which I expect you will now around the first Sirus kill point of progression), look to do some Ice Spear swapping for the bigger bosses which seemed to work for Grimro just fine last league. As for FRite totems, I'll probably have a preliminary PoB up in my stream on Friday, but I think you can kind of look at most any Dark Pact totem build and get an idea of how you'd set it up. I understand, it is just surprising for you of all people to have their faith in FP totems shook and it is making me reconsider starting it hahaha Me too... This was 100% going to be my starter, now with dmg gutted pretty hard and the guy who always starts with it saying "i probably won't" i feel like I shouldn't waste my time either hahaha. But im torn because I still like totems a lot.	Posted by boris_37 on Jul 21, 2021, 11:50:00 PM Quote this Post
" Quintessence wrote: I understand, it is just surprising for you of all people to have their faith in FP totems shook and it is making me reconsider starting it hahaha Yeah, I know how it probably looks to folks but I feel like I'm doing the right thing holding off on updating it sight unseen. People can write guides for whatever reason they want, but I personally do it because it is sort of a living map of where I am actually going with a build. So for me it feels like I have no business updating it unless I can invest the time after league start to ensure my changes reflect the reality of the patch in practice. It's entirely possible I update this guide after league start, or even skip this league and update it in 3.16. It's also entirely possible I retire the guide and replace it with a Forbidden Rite totem guide if that works out better than expected. I guess in that regard they probably succeeded with their meta shifting goals in 3.15, at least!	Posted by Wallach on Jul 22, 2021, 1:44:16 AM Quote this Post
That might be a dumb question, but will Forbitten Rite damage the Totems or the player?	Posted by Chosti5 on Jul 22, 2021, 2:12:48 AM Quote this Post
" Chosti5 wrote: That might be a dumb question, but will Forbitten Rite damage the Totems or the player? It should deal damage to the totem, and scale off their life / ES instead of yours.	Posted by Wallach on Jul 22, 2021, 2:17:00 AM Quote this Post
" Wallach wrote: It should deal damage to the totem, and scale off their life / ES instead of yours. Thanks :) Looks like an Option. I will stalk your Profile on League Start ;) Last edited by Chosti5 on Jul 22, 2021, 2:30:57 AM	Posted by Chosti5 on Jul 22, 2021, 2:30:26 AM Quote this Post
VonViktons fp/icespear got 15m => 5m dps drop on "budget". 66% less damage, nice balance	Posted by unne on Jul 22, 2021, 3:18:28 AM Quote this Post
" Wallach wrote: The more I think about it, I may not wind up updating this guide for now, or to any significant degree anyway. I'm not all that excited about league starting it, which is a pretty strong indicator to me that I probably shouldn't invest as much time on it as I used to. Right now I'm leaning towards starting FRite totems since it'll be something new. Good for you trying something now honestly, the guide and all has been fantastic. Have you thought about doing anything with the Slam Totem support? Looks pretty dam cool.	Posted by mrwiggiiles on Jul 22, 2021, 5:36:48 AM Quote this Post
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After careful consideration and feedback from all of you guys it seems like FP totems is the build I want to league-start as. Even tho it has been heavily nerfed like all other builds the chance to freeze bosses and shatter packs in itself is an extremely powerful mechanic to have, going into 3.15 especially with all the monster buffs. This time around I might have a miserable time sitting in yellow maps not being able to push red maps on day one but that is fine since most builds will probably have the same problem except maybe minion builds. Grinding will be far more meaningful now in order to progress. Gone are the days where you equip literally any shit gear you pick up from the ground on blood aqueducts and make it all the way to T14s, we're gonna have to live with that! XD In the end I will still have significant dps at endgame and can also respec to Forbidden Rite totems later should I choose to. Goodluck with 3.15 league start everyone! Cheers!! :)	Posted by TheBitcher on Jul 22, 2021, 12:34:11 PM Quote this Post
waiting update for 3.15 .	Posted by igorsmorais on Jul 22, 2021, 12:39:34 PM Quote this Post